i took a cab home one very early morning(don't ask), and medyo napakwento kami ng driver re the AE101 and AE111 corolla. Sabi nya is that ung AE111 daw e "lumulutang" pag mabilis takbo sa highway -- dunno what he meant pero i get the impression na medyo unstable sya at high speeds.
on the other hand, ung AE101 na minamaneho e "bumabaon" sa kalsada at high speeds -- parang mas maganda raw ang kapit...better aerodynamics perhaps?
comments, anyone? sana'y medyo cool lang po tayo sa pagsagot, and please don't take the above statements as entirely true -- for all we know this could be just a load of bullcrap
baka naman nya nasabing lumulutang is just because of the flourescent na nakakabit sa oto and when you saw that on the road especially at night puede mong sabihin sa sarili mo na lumulutang! its just myimagination maybe! but i saw a lot of cars in japan na may flourescent sa ilalim and super lowered ang oto at nasabi ko sa sarili ko na ang ganda nito parang lumulutang sa highway lalo na on the top speed......i dont if my feedback is right pero tutuo ang nasabi ko sa sarili ko nagn makakita ako sa highway and nasabi ko rin sa sarili ko na tutuo pala ang nakita ko sa movie ng TOO FAST.......TOO FURIOUS.......:car:
i think the 'lutang' effect is pretty common for economy cars, since they are light, are not aerodynamically tuned for top speed, and do not have sportscar steering, suspension or tires.
my 93 corolla, 92 civic, and countless rental cars were all like that...ewan ko lang kung mas maganda ang aerodynamics ng ae101 corolla.
i had a ae111 before, and i may say na tama yung cab driver. pag mabilis ako and pag may kasalubong na bus or truck also travelling a high speed, feel mo talaga na natutulak yung car. sa civic, walang ganitong feeling or sometimes very very slight lang.
Originally posted by badkuk i took a cab home one very early morning(don't ask), and medyo napakwento kami ng driver re the AE101 and AE111 corolla. Sabi nya is that ung AE111 daw e "lumulutang" pag mabilis takbo sa highway -- dunno what he meant pero i get the impression na medyo unstable sya at high speeds.
on the other hand, ung AE101 na minamaneho e "bumabaon" sa kalsada at high speeds -- parang mas maganda raw ang kapit...better aerodynamics perhaps?
comments, anyone? sana'y medyo cool lang po tayo sa pagsagot, and please don't take the above statements as entirely true -- for all we know this could be just a load of bullcrap
I drive an AE111.
The AE111 corolla does have a "float" problem at speed. Its due to the suspension. The local version of the AE111 came with TALLER springs as compared if you get the japanese version springs. I guess Toyota Philippines thought that a taller car would be better for the local road conditions.
Given the local AE111 rides taller, it also means the center of gravity is higher. This makes the car sway (a little) side to side or yawing, especially when driving over uneven roads (example, EDSA).
Its not a matter of aerodynamics of the AE111 is inferior to the AE101.
BTW, its also relatively simple to fix. Replace the local springs with JDM (Japanese) springs. The car will ride 1 to 1.5 inch lower than local version too. An alternative, use lowering springs like Eibach, etc.
As for the 111, I really can't help but be bothered by its relatively high ground clearance up front, which seems even taller than the 101. As what ghosthunter said, this may be the cause of high-speed instability. It's true that Toyota set the RP Corolla higher because of our bad road conditions.