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    #91
    If not him, who else would do it???









    Edit future > annoyance

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    OT: alabanger_2000, welcome to Tsikot.com!

    Hmmm... nawawala na yung pinost ni alabanger (the link, at least) dun sa site ni Granada, napalitan yung link ng "Stop the Killings".

    Quote Originally Posted by alabanger_2000 View Post
    Hey guys, got this email about McDonald's and checked it out. I swear Gary Granada is real. he has a website http://www.garygranada.com It's weird, i even got this negative comments from his website. think hes some kind of profesor in UP. May free downloadable songs pa niya, can't believe it, is this guy crazy or what! Maybe his songs suck kaya libre hehehe. Anyway, judge for urself, here gose:


    [SIZE=2]People Assail Granada, Defend McDonald's[/SIZE]

    [SIZE=2]While we have been getting encouraging and supportive responses, it is quite important to hear out (rather than edit out) views to the contrary. Kaalagad believes in critical pluralism. Here are some comments that assail Gary Granada and defend McDonald's:[/SIZE]

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    u guys are stupid do you really think Mcdonalds will entertain you guys when you are questioning thier product packaging. do you think their big bosses will personaly go down just to meet you and hear you whine and complain... of course not. and i dont believe that a rep of media relations officer for McDonald's will say something like "Why don’t you go to Jollibee instead, they’re number One" (especially to someone like you guys). this is nothing but a black propaganda. From adik_kayo, no email address supplied
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    Kaya naaasar ako sa mga aktibista na ito, eh. Yung mga rally nila sa kalye nila ginagawa. Sobrang traffic! P*tang ina pati yung ambulance namin dati hindi makarating ng base dahil sa traffic kapag may rally sa main thoroughfares. Buti sana kung kamag-anak ng rallyista yung isasakay. Kahit madelay ng tatlong araw yung ambulance okey lang.
    Otep
    Roadside Assistance
    Tsikot Administrator
    http://tsikot.yehey.com/forums/showthread.php?p=671019

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    Yan talaga ang mahihita nila pag masyado silang makulit. Kinukulit kasi nila yung Mcdo eh. As if naman parang magic na pwede nilang palitan yung styrofoam nila kaagad. Isa pa, dictated yan ng mother company sa America. Ang mother company kasi ng Jollibee eh nandito sa Pilipinas kaya mas mabilis ang feedback compared sa McDonalds. Meron kasing standard policy ang mga multinational corporations. Sumusunod lang ang mga branches sa policy ng mother company. Dapat dun pumunta si Gary sa America at dun siya mag-reklamo... Nobody asked them na maglakad ng ilang kilometro at lumanghap ng usok sa kalsada in the first place. They willingly took the punishment, why would they ask for sympathy?
    El Chicane
    http://tsikot.yehey.com/forums/showthread.php?p=671019

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    Huh??!? Binastos sila kasi... mga "bata" ang nakipag-usap sa kanila?? Dahil hindi ang buong tropa ng mga nagpro-protesta ang pinapasok? Talagang nag-iinarte lang talaga si Gary... "Ordeal" daw... It is Gary's group that has no appreciation for courtesy... You don't charge into someone's office protesting and expect to be warmly received...!
    Creepy

    http://tsikot.yehey.com/forums/showthread.php?p=671019

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    Last edited by Alpha_One; October 29th, 2006 at 08:13 PM.

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    I'm now taking off my imaginary tsikot sticker.










    Edit whoahhh!!!!!

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    Got this from the same website....

    makapunta nga sa Conspiracy (for a free drink)

    McDonald's hires PR agency
    to invite Fr. Ben Moraleda and Gary Granada



    On the evening of October 17, I got a call from Ms. Bonjin Bolinao. She said McDonald's was sending a letter to Kaalagad, inviting us to a dialogue. She also asked me if it were possible to indicate in my website that McDonald's already sent a letter to Kaalagad (we received the letter the following day). I promised her that I will publish her letter in my website (http://garygranada.com). I believe the only way we may have an honest to goodness dialogue where public concern is concerned is for the public to know the facts. So I'm publishing and circulating this letter, as well as my reply to Bonjin, in fairness to everybody.



    If you haven't yet, please read for a backgrounder

    My Ordeal with the Arrogant Managers of McDonald's



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    16 October 2006



    KAALAGAD

    Attention:

    Fr. Ben Moraleda, Spokesperson

    Mr. Gary Granada, Volunteer



    Dear Fr. Moraleda and Mr. Granada:

    On behalf McDonald’s Philippines, we would like to invite you to a dialogue with senior McDonald’s representatives on Thursday, October 26, at 9:30 AM at Top of the Citi restaurant, 34th floor, Citibank Center, Paseo de Roxas, Makati City.

    McDonald’s would like to discuss with your group their efforts in addressing the various issues that you have raised. They would also like to formalize their commitment to your cause of reducing the use of harmful substances in the quick-service industry.

    Thank you for your attention. Please confirm if you are available on the said date and time. Should you have further queries, please contact Mr. Stevie Martinez at 889-8332 loc. 131 or 0918-9258163.


    Thank you.


    Sincerely,

    HCN Bonjin Bolinao
    Managing Director
    DDB Phils.
    Ad Verbum PR



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    And here is my reply to her letter (thru e-mail):



    19 October 2006


    Dear Bonjin,

    I just read your letter dated 16 October, 2006. Thank you for the invitation. Because we are a consultative community, Kaalagad is currently consulting its members and staff as well as our partners in order to come up with an appropriate collective response.

    Offhand, I would like to share with you my personal view. (Kaalagad is drafting its official position.)

    I am of the opinion that your letter is insincere, insensitive and mercenary. It is insincere because you write as though October 6 never happened. No mention of the incident, no need for apology, no need to explain why McDonald's acted the way it did.

    It is insensitive because you picked a venue which is one elevator ride from McDonald's's bosses' office, while we have to commute all the way to Makati from Quezon City. To add insult to injury, you picked the very same building where we were harassed by your security people and shabbily treated by your managers.

    It is mercenary because I see PR written all over the page. It is not even signed by McDonald's but by an ad agency. We are not a 'market' that your college advertising textbooks may have taught you to regard. We are not a 'segment' of the market that you can simply 'sample', 'profile' and 'contain' if need be.

    Don't treat us like we are a PR problem. I cannot take this veiled insult sitting down. So, to cut the crap, I will excuse myself from any possible dialogue with you or your client.

    I have a very simple, doable and straightforward suggestion to you though. Why don't you and McDonald's use everything within your enormous financial and media clout to discredit what I am saying:

    DON'T BUY MCDONALD'S BECAUSE:
    1. McDonald's is arrogant - don't make them more arrogant.
    2. McDonald's uses styrofoam - don't encourage them further.

    I urge you to publicly discredit those two statements. And I shall be very happy, even eager, to be discredited and proven wrong if you really mean what you say. Show proof in all your stores and offices that contrary to what I am saying, McDonald's is a humble giant that puts public welfare above profit. That way, we all win!

    I will publicly broadcast those statements. I know it sounds laughable for I can't even afford to pay for one column-centimeter of news item. A little-known folksinger versus a transnational ad agency of a transnational megacorporation is a like playing chess blindfolded with one rook less. On the other hand, I believe there are lots and lots of people who simply seek goodwill and solidarity. And I suspect many of them are fond of spaghetti and brewed coffee.

    This will be the last time I'll write to you regarding McDonald's, hell I don't get paid for writing letters like you do.

    Lastly, please do not take this letter as a personal affront. Like you said over the phone, we have common friends. I hope we are on the same page then, for instance, in taking the illegitimate Arroyo government to task over the specter of state-sponsored summary executions and brazen political opportunism that has become the norm in this country.

    Tell you what, I hang out at Conspiracy (Visayas Ave, Quezon City, across Shell, beside Equitable Bank, landline 4532170). My favorite singers Cooky Chua and Noel Cabangon (who by the way once did a commercial for McDonald's) perform there. Our mutual friend Conrado DeQuiros is a regular. You might want to check the place out. Please let me buy you a beer, no scripts, no agenda, but as real persons in a real way.



    Sincerely,

    Gary Granada

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    #95
    He needs more fries...






    :fly:


    Edit too much angst too little ***....


    Edit2 I hope his stupidity does not derail the real agenda.....


    Edit3 group needs a new leader

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    #96
    what an emotional letter! McDo might as well ignore him.


    edit ala gasjunkie: he might get more audience if he suit up a Mc Ronald's costume and get Big Mac mascot from behind

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    #97
    pwede naman mag pa appointment diba?

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    ooo, someone forgot to take his prozac and lithium before sitting in front of the comp :pcwhack:

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    Quote Originally Posted by alabanger_2000 View Post
    Hey guys, got this email about McDonald's and checked it out. I swear Gary Granada is real. he has a website http://www.garygranada.com It's weird, i even got this negative comments from his website. think hes some kind of profesor in UP.

    With a "professor" like this, I would think twice before I'll ever enroll in UP. The same goes with my children.

    Kaya sinabi ni Raul Gonzalez, UP "mainly produces militant protesters and fraternity men and women who run around the campus naked".

    No such thing as a bad student, only bad teachers.

    Sorry sa OT, I'm just disgusted with Mr. Granada's reply. He should have been more constructive, and stick the the styro issue....instead of seeking vengence for his hurted ego.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HIFI View Post
    With a "professor" like this, I would think twice before I'll ever enroll in UP. The same goes with my children.

    Kaya sinabi ni Raul Gonzalez, UP "mainly produces militant protesters and fraternity men and women who run around the campus naked".

    No such thing as a bad student, only bad teachers.

    Sorry sa OT, I'm just disgusted with Mr. Granada's reply. He should have been more constructive, and stick the the styro issue....instead of seeking vengence for his hurted ego.
    Hey, don't get this wrong impression about UP from Granada. I study there, and I can say he (along with his crazy "activist" friends and students) are the exception rather than the rule. They give activism a bad name, I tell you.
    Last edited by Alpha_One; October 30th, 2006 at 10:59 AM.

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