Urgent! (can't find non-E10-gasoline)

[boy_tino]

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aY4YiEBnJ_8"]YouTube- Will e85 conversion kits damage, ruin or harm my engine [NO!][/ame]


This video shows an engine from a Chevy Tahoe being inspected after running over 100,000 miles on E85, and how the internal engine components look like after using E85 for that long period.

There's a lot of myths surrounding bio-ethanol nowadays. No doubt it's corrosive, in it's 100% form, since it alkaline. But just diluting it to 85% was a good compromise on modern vehicles and still be able to maintain proper lubrication on the engine. Ilang taon na ring ginagamit sa ibang bansa ang E85 with much success. Hindi naman nakakapagtaka na merong nagsusupress sa technology, o nagpapasa ng mga false information, kasi naturally created ang bio-ethanol, fermentation lang ng vegetation. Natural hindi basta na lang uupo sa isang tabi ang mga oil companies sa ganyan katinding kompetisyon, lalo na pagini-introduce pa lang at bagong technology pa. Syempre di sila papayag masapawan agad ng bagong dating. Subconsciously na sinasabi sa mga tao na walang kwenta bio-ethanol gas. Samahan pa ng mga kwentong barbero, yari na.

Compared to E85, E10 is very little bio-ethanol concentration to worry about. It's a way to break in the public on what's new to come. Lower concentration muna sa atin sa umpisa dahil mas maraming mga older type vehicles or basic carburated engines sa atin kesa sa mga bago na fuel injection systems na, then gradually itataas na yan slowly, pero matagal na transition yan. I understand the concern since our carburated or other fuel feed system of older design. But until the concentration goes higher than E10, i can say it can be used with confidence, as long as the older cars or other EFI engine not compatible kuno are maintained properly as usual. The only thing that needed to be done to the is for the engine to be tuned properly to the fuel type (correcting the timing and carb mixture or right throttle adjustment for EFI). Otherwise, it will not run right, and you will experience some hesitations, jerks, sputters, etc. Or if it will make you feel better, you can upgrade the fuel system to something more modern, including the fuel pump, the lines, coated tank, modern carburator and fuel rail for EFI. Then have hardened valves installed, and your older engine like carburated should be ready for E85.


i think kaya marami na sa atin na hindi nagsasabi na hindi maganda ang bio-ethanol like like E10 dahil na brain-washed tayo masyado ng mga nagbibigay ng wrong information about ethanol mula sa mga anti-ethanol groups.

[koring]

Mga sir, baka gusto nyo i try sa UNI OIL malapit sa MCU near Monumento nagpa karga ako ilang beses sabi sakin ng mga gasoline boy na wala ng halong E10 ang gas nila both Quantum/premium gas and Unleaded gas nila.. and infront ng gasoline station nila ay ang Core OIl Station Unleaded gas palang nila ang may E10, try nyo kung malapit kayo sa Monumento area.

[redeemed]

Mga sir, baka gusto nyo i try sa UNI OIL malapit sa MCU near Monumento nagpa karga ako ilang beses sabi sakin ng mga gasoline boy na wala ng halong E10 ang gas nila both Quantum/premium gas and Unleaded gas nila.. and infront ng gasoline station nila ay ang Core OIl Station Unleaded gas palang nila ang may E10, try nyo kung malapit kayo sa Monumento area.

e sir, yun po bang mga small players may sariling refinery para makapag produce ng non-E10 blended gasoline? o they're getting it from big players din? so even do sinasabi nilang non-E10 pa yung ibang gas nila, pero meron na pala kasi nga wala naman silang refinery. what do you think guys?

[boy_tino]

e sir, yun po bang mga small players may sariling refinery para makapag produce ng non-E10 blended gasoline? o they're getting it from big players din? so even do sinasabi nilang non-E10 pa yung ibang gas nila, pero meron na pala kasi nga wala naman silang refinery. what do you think guys?

possible yan.

marami ako kakilala nagwowork na mismo sa planta ng mga kilalang big players ng oil company kapag ang isa ay medyo kakapusin ng stock dahil medyo matagal pang dumating ang supply para sa isang oil company na na ngangailangan para makapag benta ay humihiram din sila sa ka kakompetensya nila tapos yung parating naman na supply ay yun naman ang ipapalit nila sa hiniram nilang stock mula sa kakumpetensya nila.

[dod]

called up JETTI - Casals St. near quiapo... their fuels are still non e-10... Unleaded Plus (RON93) s priced at 43.90 and Prime (RON95) s priced at 44.40. will try it at my next fill-up... by the way, any feedback regarding JETTI?

[roberto_minosa]

i think kaya marami na sa atin na hindi nagsasabi na hindi maganda ang bio-ethanol like like E10 dahil na brain-washed tayo masyado ng mga nagbibigay ng wrong information about ethanol mula sa mga anti-ethanol groups.

I hate it, the car runs slower with it. I also get worse fuel mileage since I have to use the lead foot due to the power loss. But between Petron E10 Unleaded and Shell E10 Unleaded, Petron is worse; and Blaze doesn't help either.

[ghosthunter]

Also... E10 gasoline "spoils" so quickly in my fuel tank. Three to four weeks and the engine runs so poorly on it. This is compared to my last purchase of Petron XCS (without E10) which lasted five months.

[nic]

Share ko lang. Pinaayos ko carburetor ng Corolla 983 XE ko, pinalitan yung rubber plunger. SAbi ng mekaniko sa A&M dahil daw sa E10 fuel yun. (Napakargahan ko accidentally ng E10 kasi yung gas station na pinakargahan ko, walang sign na yung premium gas nila eh may halo nang ethanol.)

Ngayon sinasadya ko pa ang Jetti sa Macapagal para lang non-E10 ang maipakarga ko.

Babayaran kaya ni Migz Zubiri yung ginastos ko sa repair?

Kotse ko naka carb with e10- hard starting at takaw sa gas.

Magkano pagawa mo sa A&M?
Aside from A&M (at mga katabi sa Kamias Road) anong shops pa pwede gumawa ng fuel lines para maging e10 compatible?

Ang option nalang talaga natin mga naka-carb is gawing e10 compatible ang sasakyan. Ang hirap at impractical naman kung dadayuhin pa natin mga gas stations na walang e10.

[CVT]

UniOil here in Sucat Road, a few hundred meters away from SM Sucat,- pure gasoline pa rin...

9606:hippie:

[pup2]

The Jetti news is good for me, if true. Its the only small player close to my home/office e. Even PTT is on that crap and expensive ethanol now.

Naglaho parang bula yung fans ni Mr Sugar Baron Politician nung dumami na naka try ng ethanol a ...