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    #1
    i may have misinterpreted some of the postings i've come across, pero i got the impression that a 1.3 liters is just too small a displacement for a turbocharger to make any improvement in power output. i've been contemplating putting one on my stock 2e engine(just for the heck of it B)

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    Not useless per se, but the cost of turbocharging a 1.3 is usually a bit steep as compared to swapping the engine itself.

    That said, without major work on the internals of the engine, I suppose 120-130hp at around 5-6 psi is realistic for a stock-block 1.3 liter engine. If that's a carburated engine, good luck tuning it for boost. You'll need to upgrade to a bigger carb and a better fuel supply.

    What's the 2e? Sprinter? If we're talking FWD Toyotas here, it might be simpler to swap in a 1.3 turbo (110hp stock, tunable for much more). I'm not sure if one exists for RWD Toyota mounts.

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    #3
    not useless but why bother? its not worth it

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    #4
    yes, it's useless. imo.

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    kung ung stock engine ay 1300 NA(or kahit anong displacement), sa akin lang wag na...unless siguro wala ka nang mapagtapunan ng pera mo...or just dont want to change ung records sa LTO.

    pero may 1300 na may turbo,a: ung pinapalit sa charade...may 660cc pa nga,e....mga jimny/supercarry(every) vans na galing sa japan.

    swap ka nalang ng much bigger engine or get a turbo-version ng engine na un...

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    #6
    ung starlet gt diba 1.3 turbo?

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    #7
    1.3 ata yung 4efte (starlet).. try engine swap na lang.

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    #8
    how bout putting simul?may mga nabasa kasi ako tungkol dun.

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    #9
    may jazz idsi nga na nka turbo eh!

    sa gd united ng hondaclub.com.ph

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    #10
    badkuk...upgrade ka na lang ng ride 1.6 or 2.0 ;)

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    try to touch base with Auto.Xer (a.k.a. Ferman Lao) of Fusion R. They have turbo charged a new Honda Jazz 1.3 CVT.

    They basically installed a turbo, intercooler, and a piggyback chip (SMT).

    Based on the dyno readings at Autoplus, hp and torque rose very significantly!

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    IMO... the only 1.3L engine worth boosting is from the Mazda RX-8. :bwahaha:

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    #13
    Quote Originally Posted by mazdamazda
    IMO... the only 1.3L engine worth boosting is from the Mazda RX-8. :bwahaha:
    apparently not - well... at least as far as FusionR's experience on a particular Honda Jazz is concerned.

    Personally though, I'd rather buy a higher displacement car.

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    #14
    a 1.8 or 2.0 compact sedan would be much more logical, better yet turbocharge the 1.8/2.0 sedan and you're good to go!

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    #15
    If that 1.3L car is just your beater car, and you have money to burn, why not?

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    #16
    mataas ang Php/hp cost for a 1.3L project car eh.

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    and i think ung mga gumagawa ng ganun, para di halatang matulin..kasi iisipin ng tao, 1.3L lang un....kaya makakagawa ng frustration sa hahamon sa kanila...

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    Quote Originally Posted by woodfire
    try to touch base with Auto.Xer (a.k.a. Ferman Lao) of Fusion R. They have turbo charged a new Honda Jazz 1.3 CVT.

    They basically installed a turbo, intercooler, and a piggyback chip (SMT).

    Based on the dyno readings at Autoplus, hp and torque rose very significantly!

    according to Ferman, the jazz (turbo) performance is almost at the same level of a Civic SiR before the vtec kicks in.

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    di naman siguro useless, but probably not worth the money you're gonna spend.

    Sabihin na natin mag spend ka ng around 80K-100K (all-in na yan, pati iba pang kailangan, IC, fuel management, injectors, whatever), the power you will be gaining is not that much in relation to the the amount you will be spending and it's still a 1.3 with a lot of limitations.

    If I'm in that position, mag swap na lang ako ng makina with a bigger displacement.

    my 2 cents

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    pero most 1.3L cars are lightweight, almost or a bit over 1000kgs:

    vios, jazz, getz, charade, pride...supercarry/every, hi-jet vans... kung maging 160hp-200hp engine parang lilipad na ung sasakyan..parang power ang weight ratio..

    pero kung figures alng pagbabasehan, parang lugi ka sa gagastusin mo sa 1.3L car mo...

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