Timing Belt Question

[zeroken]

Question lang po. After initial changing of timing belt mga ilang KM ulit ang kelangan intayin?

[Bogeyman]

Question lang po. After initial changing of timing belt mga ilang KM ulit ang kelangan intayin?

Typically 60-70,000 kms., although there are some that can last well into the 100,000km mark before requiring replacement.

Ultimately it depends on the car manufacturer, assuming that an OEM belt was used. The owner's manual specifies the recommended interval between replacements.

[speedyfix]

your typical 80k service will include the timing belt, tensioner, waterpump, cam and crank seals plus replacing all of the fluids, filter and some other things.

[mackkcam]

in part of replacing my timing belt, do i still need to make SABAY, the change of the Oil seals + Tensional Bearing? incase of the Waterpump does not need to be replaced...

or do i do this first:
1st: timing belt, tensioner, waterpump, cam and crank seals
Ipon Mode:
2nd: Fluids + brake pads or is it ok to change my fluids on my 10th km mark, when i'll make my tune up? (ngaun replacement ng timing belt, change Oil muna ako, balak ko kc pagnapachange Oil ulit ako + tune up, sabay ko na ung fluids, pero ung sa brake pads, pacheck ko na rin, pagnagpareplace ako, kc nung medyo mabigat ung load ng trunk ko, bumigay ung hand break, umtras xa mga 20" ata ang inatras nya nung pagsakay ko)

Comments? btw, i'll be making this project on the weekends, update ko tong thread

[Bogeyman]

Unahin mo yung mga parts na kasya sa budget mo, tipong yung mga mabibili mo right this very moment. In my case, installment ko din binili yung mga piyesa ko.

Yung huling punta ko sa casa (65,000kms.), I was told na kelangan nang palitan yung front brake pads, timing belt, tensioner and oil seals by the next PMS. Since brake pads pa lang yung kinaya ng bulsa ko that time at mas priority ko yung stopping ability, yun muna yung inuna ko (Bendix). Brake replacement was done by the Servitek branch near our place. Then I went for the timing belt, then pagdating ng sweldo saka ko binili yung tensioner, bearings, and oil seals. Since malapit na naman nun sa 70,000km. checkup, hinintay ko na lang para sabay na rin sa tune-up. In the meantime, medyo alalay muna sa takbo.

Dahil binabalanse ko yung cost vis-a-vis yung quality ng piyesa, katakut-takot na computation at canvassing ang ginawa ko, patawag-tawag sa mga authorized dealers at sa Banawe shops. Gumawa pa ako ng matrix just to compare their prices. If you can find OEM parts that cost less than those found at the more expensive dealers, so much the better.

[samejicon]

meron bang mgaling na shop na nagpapalit ng belts dito around las pinas area?

[mackkcam]

bali nakapagcanvas na ako from Honda (kasa) to suking Autosupply dealer, bale ung timing belt mismo sa Kasa ko na bbilhin kc konti lng ung difference, tpos ung waterPump, Tensional bearing, Oil seal, made in japan lng daw ung sa suking autosupply eh, Ok na ba un? or i-push ko pa rin sa Kasa bumile? medyo, laking tipid pag sa autosupply lng bumile eh, anu frozen consequences nun? pag japan ginamit ko?

[speedyfix]

do the belt etc muna. the fluids can wait imo. but not too long.

the belt and seals get orig. the waterpump and bearing pwede replacement. be sure good brands lang.

[calcite]

Buy original honda belts, tensioner bearing, crankshaft oil seal, cam shaft oil seal and water pump.

The reason for this is you don't want your timing belt to break prematurely (before the next timing belt change date). If it breaks prematurely, your engine will likely suffer severe damage and will necessitate a general overhaul - very expensive. So definitely get orig honda timing belt and tensioner bearing.

The oil seals, and the water pump you also dont want to fail before your next timing belt replacement. If they fail, your car wont suffer severe damage but will lead to oil leaks and or overheating (water pump failure). If they do fail prematurely and need to be replaced, you will have to remove the timing belt (and the alternator, power steering pump, timing belt cover, right engine mount, crankshaft pulley, etc, etc) again in order to get access to these parts. Just imagine how much is the labor cost for that (P2-3t?).

On the othe hand, maganda rin naman ang mga OEM-Japan parts. Problem is maraming fake and if you wind-up with fake parts it can lead to a lot of trouble. It is your call.

But if you can DIY, maybe you can risk using OEM-Japan parts, tutal mapapagod ka lang naman.

The brake repair, oil change, etc are not connected to the timing belt so you can schedule that at your convenience - or as-needed lang.

[mackkcam]

How do i know kung fake ung OEM na parts? kc sa suking autosupply naman un, pero kakilala naman, pero, cge, how can you discriminate fake from the Original one? medyo, may price difference sila in between ng Japan at Honda Parts eh, (not the Timing belt ha). Tebnsional, WP, Oil seals,....

[calcite]

that is the problem if you buy parts - it is hard to discriminate the fakes. The best you can do is to buy from your suking auto supply and trust them. And hope for the best.

[mackkcam]

OT: Ok lng ba ang 20x50 Castrol na engine oil para sa car ko? 97' honda City Exi... or any other options? ung Proven and Tested na!!

[Cobalt Blue]

change na rin ur water pump and coolant while your at it kasi para isang bukasan na lang pag nag palit ka like said earlier marami kasama yan 1 time big time na yan kasi pag naputulan ka ng belt do not attempt to start it or else damaged na ung engine mo

[speedyfix]

if you want to be sure na orig buy the parts from casa or shops that are known to sell oem parts na di ka lolokohin. mga tabi tabi auto supplies tend to have lotsa fake parts from my experience and it is super hard to know what is fake and orig.

20w50 is way too thick for a honda.

[mackkcam]

guys,

update ko lng, have change my timing belt last saturday day, details:
the Mekanik said the only parts to be replaced is:
>Timing Belt
>crankshaft only
>> tensional bearing will last pa until next timing belt replacement (biroin mo un?)
>> water Pump (no Problem, still good condition)
>engine gasket (ung parang rubber lining sa takip ng engine, para walang tatagas na Oil? gasket ba tawag dun) * changed (replacement lng, kc medyo mahal ung Orig nun halos 3x sa price, OEM 2x lng
+ chang oil, castrol GTX 20x50

*All in All 4k lng ORig honda ung oil seal at belt, bale ung gasket lng ung replacement.... hayz, natpos na din ang gas2s (sana!!)

*speedyfix
OT: as in sobra ba? yun din kc ung oil ko dati eh, (since nabbuy namin un, for the 2nd time pa lng ako nagpapachangeOil eh, anu ba referred sa mga Generation 1 Honda City's? this is regarding Engine Oils

[speedyfix]

yup, it's the totally wrong viscosity for honda. even the manual does not recommend it.

[mackkcam]

in short,

what viscosity should i use? given that it is a 1996 model...

[Amihan]

Request lang kay mckkcam (did I spell it right?): When posting, please avoid SMS abbreviations. Sumakit talaga ulo ko reading your posts, eh very grateful pa naman ako with the threads you started because my car hit 92++ recently and like you, I had to replace to balljoint, tie rod, rack end, CV boots. Thanks for starting the thread. More thanks for posting spelled out words. I had to re-read your sentences twice, thrice to understand that "x" was meant to be read differently. Hindi ka naman na-text when posting here so okay lang, no need to economize on the letters.

[speedyfix]

the very thickest should be a 10w40.

[grcr4mms]

I'm just learning about cars and this thread was very helpful...thanks for all the info. Anyway, i just recently bought 2001 honda city type Z vti around 1 1/2 months ago. It has 84k km and the first thing i did (as advised by my brother) is to change oil...dun ko na sa honda q. ave. pinagawa as they have this promo P875 change oil + free 18pt check up, tpos pinatune-up ko na rin and pinacheck/clean ko breaks. Ok naman but they advised replacement of my front engine support (which i did a week ago outside casa) and oil pan gasket (not yet done). Wala daw leak pero nagmomoist daw? Is the oil pan anywhere near the timing belt coz I'm planning to replace na my timing belt next week (as advised again by my brother but i'm wondering why my adviser at honda did not tell me that though i asked if the check included all the belts and kasama daw pero ok pa)? My other question is kelangan ba talaga ireplace din the tensioner together with the timing belt (sabi din sa honda magkasabay daw pinapalitan un) kasi medyo tipid muna ko ngayon pero ayoko naman maputulan ng timing belt? I plan to buy the timing belt from honda (P1,250+ lang ksi dun) and if ever the tensioner need to be replaced outside honda na (nabasa ko dito ok lang di original and at honda it cost around 2 thou). Sorry medyo haba my post.....