performance Upgrade or ??

[empy]

but does the 1.3 push enough air to make the restriction of the stock IHE truly an issue? i am guessing you don't get much of anything from a less restrictive IHE.

but even if you get a 50% hp increase (which is very aggressive for n/a), you still have a relatively weak car as niky said. pede na if you're looking for more power around town and don't mind spending the money, or if you're building a spec racer (for which i wouldn't start with a City anyway in the 1/3 NA class).

kung ganun ang expectations mo, then go for it! but don't expect to build a drag car or a stoplight-to-stoplight racer...good luck

[speedyfix]

the question should be how much power do you want? minsan all you want is just a bit more oomph and you end up replacing the engine that you don't know the history of.

i don't know but you better think it out well before you do anything.

[niky]

Yun nga yung problem.

Spending sane money on a 1.3 City will not make it as fast as the VTi next to you.

Spending insane money might.

Been there, done that.

But if you want the car to feel just a little more "fun", go ahead. do the exhaust-work and intake-work and whatever else you feel like... but don't expect miracles. In the end... the mods to make the 1.3 push out an extra 30 ponies would probably cost as much as a 1.5 engine swap, which would make you even more power.

Yeah, like I'm one to give advice... don't ask Speedlab about my current build...

[mackkcam]

I just want a kick in my ride, a bit performance type of car, hindi naman serious race driver, perf lng... mabilis lng tlga ako magpatakbo, and alam ko, kaya ko pa ipush ang car kahit konti, without harming its parts...

back to topic:
LF: reputable shop where they do medrel bending headers, also a muffler shop.. except muffler land, i have contacted them, and listed down the prices... any shop?? (also nodalos, but theyre not using menrel bending...)

Another thing... any reputable shop na rin to find my suitable Air Intake set (tube and filter??)

Thanks for posting guys... konti na lng... sana maFinalize na natin...

[ghosthunter]

Yeah, like I'm one to give advice... don't ask Speedlab about my current build...

yup, take his word for it. I've come from Speedlab and seen the current build. Not a pretty sight (for your wallet).

But if you do have the budget, Speedlab is a good place to have stuff done. My project car was mostly done at Speedlab but had a more modest build-up than Niky.

[mackkcam]

hold On, I'll get back to this topic, On Gains after IHE upgrades...

Would there be noticeable gains in HP, not that super big, but noticeable.. hindi kasali ung noticeable na ingay na maccreate ng headers, filter and Muff..

Basic Mod lng naman toh, not thinking of going bigtime... ^^, after nito Audio na ako then simple Body...

[niky]

yup, take his word for it. I've come from Speedlab and seen the current build. Not a pretty sight (for your wallet).

But if you do have the budget, Speedlab is a good place to have stuff done. My project car was mostly done at Speedlab but had a more modest build-up than Niky.

Hahaha... more modest because you started with a better engine. Thanks for not mentioning that you still make more power than me...

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On-topic... IHE will always give you a bump. At worst... just a 5-8 hp bump... which is noticeable... at best, maybe 10-15 hp (though 15 hp is kinda optimistic)... But you'll have to get it right. A lot of people just "salpak-salpak-salpak" (done that, too) and are surprised that their car feels more sluggish, because they've sacrificed too much low-end torque for top-end power.

You can buy a filter tube anywhere. Kahit Simota lang, okay na... you can get the tube at Blade, even. But change the Simota filter out for a K&N. Simotas either give you a measly +2 hp, or, at the worst, -5 hp (according to Speedlab's dyno).

Aside from mufflerland... hmmm... I know eRL does custom work, Speedlab can, too (but they're both more expensive than Mufflerland)... Fremuff is well regarded by many (despite being non-mandrel)... your choices are endless. ;)

[mackkcam]

Thanks very much for the replies sirs,
Intakes - yeah, thats my plan, simota tube + K&N Universal cone filter.
headers - Looking for pa rin tlga, I'll be checking up SX8ers at HCP
Mufflers - 2" inlet, freeflow, kahit anung tip na, ayaw ko lng ung maxadong OA sa laki, parang mangkok tignan eh, (tama ba 2" inlet, and Piping for exhaust, for a 1.3 EFI engine?) << last na yan...

mukhang mufflerland ang babagsakan ko ah, hayz...hehe

[niky]

2" is okay. What will be critical is the midpipe. Best size midpipe for a 1.6 liter engine is 2". For a 1.3 engine, that might be too big, but I don't know what else you can do. You can try 1.75" (if they have the size), but a lot will depend on what other SX8 guys say.

Good luck!

[mackkcam]

sabi nila bsta below 2" pipes, tpos same nung inlet ung sukat ng pipes, kaso ung Tip ba ng muffler? does the size have an Effect?

[niky]

Yes it does. The outlet of your exhaust system has an effect on your power. I just don't know what's ideal for your set-up.

[mackkcam]

ay ganun ba, so problem nga ung sa midpipes, try ko icheck with the shops I have called up kung meron silang 1 and 3/4 na pipings...

Add ko na rin, Feedbacks from HP racing? have called them up also, medyo 2x the price ng mga headers sa other aftermarket shops...

[niky]

What's the price?

[Mamar]

Ask ko lang po sir nicky!
iseset-up ko po kasi civic fd ko ng turbo to gain hp!
my question will be ano pa ba iba kong pedeng gawin to gain hp!
Camgear? port n polish? tnx

[niky]

Turbo is the easiest way. The 1.8 really isn't that receptive to naturally aspirated mods... it's already pretty strong for its size.

[mackkcam]

*niky,
11-12k daw , stainless - mandrell bent, custom daw kc, kasi ggawan pa daw ng design..
vs.
sa Mufflerland nahalf the price ng HP,

[mackkcam]

Update:
have finalized to purchase the I/H/E upgrade..:
Simota tube + K&N Uni filter
Mufflerland Mandrel Bent 4-2-1 (1.75")
FreeFlow muff (1.75")

Additional Questions are: after installing the IHE
1. would a Change from stock to an Aftermarket Adjustable Cam Gear give an effect to the cars performance?? have heard, llkas daw hatak pag nsa Slick or Track road
2. DO I need to make a General Tune Up and Reset my ECU?

Thanks sa mga nag replies, dami ko ng insights..

[niky]

Update:
have finalized to purchase the I/H/E upgrade..:
Simota tube + K&N Uni filter
Mufflerland Mandrel Bent 4-2-1 (1.75")
FreeFlow muff (1.75")

Additional Questions are: after installing the IHE
1. would a Change from stock to an Aftermarket Adjustable Cam Gear give an effect to the cars performance?? have heard, llkas daw hatak pag nsa Slick or Track road
2. DO I need to make a General Tune Up and Reset my ECU?

Thanks sa mga nag replies, dami ko ng insights..

Go for a 2" muffler nalang. 1.75" may be too small.

Cam Gears... so-so... performance cams first, then cam gears... or better if you can get them bundled. I don't really know on your engine... and it's not a cost effective mod. Not as cost effective as, for example, buying a V-AFC (kahit secondhand) and having the car dyno-tuned.

After IHE, medyo mahal ang mga mods for the gains they give. The only expensive mod that's "sulit" is rechipping or programming. Everything else is a lot of moolah for just a few ponies.

[mackkcam]

san ba maganda? IM choosing whether:
Nodalos or MufflerLand, medyo may difference sila,
Nodalos - Non-Mandrel
Muffler - Mandrel

may iba pa bang suggested?

[mackkcam]

san ba maganda? IM choosing whether:
Nodalos or MufflerLand, medyo may difference sila,
Nodalos - Non-Mandrel
Muffler - Mandrel

may iba pa bang suggested?
Then