Modifications for an A/T engine

[neozeke]

Hi Guys,

I'm a newbie on cars... however, I want to modify my ride to make it as fast/responsive as possible... (inspired by Fast Five) hehehe...

I want to start modifying my Toyota Corolla Altis 1.8 S.E.G. ride... I'm done with the body kits and paint job so my next step is my engine... do you guys have any suggestions on what should I modify here???

thanks a lot!!!

[niky]

Dump the 1.8 AT and install a 3SGE.




Simple modifications won't net you much in terms of power... and improper modification of the exhaust will lose you low end torque, which would be a pain given your car is an automatic. But typically, you can see some decent gains with an intake and a piggyback air-fuel computer like an APEXi SAFC.

[ghosthunter]

Hi Guys,

I'm a newbie on cars... however, I want to modify my ride to make it as fast/responsive as possible... (inspired by Fast Five) hehehe...

I want to start modifying my Toyota Corolla Altis 1.8 S.E.G. ride... I'm done with the body kits and paint job so my next step is my engine... do you guys have any suggestions on what should I modify here???

thanks a lot!!!

The only worthwhile thing to do to get more power with your car is either a nitrous kit, turbocharge your existing engine or do a engine swap with a 4AGE 20v silver-top engine.

Doing anything else to increase the performance of the existing engine would be a waste of money. That would include intake, headers, exhaust, S-AFC, etc.

[mina_nuka]

a corolla is a small new family car, if you want a fast car, buy a ferrari. corollas were meant to be a get around car.

[neozeke]

thanks for the info... how much will a brand new S-AFC cost me???

[alwayz_yummy]

7a-ge is not designed for speed but for economy....ok din naman hatak nyan...locally yan ang biggest factory engine before i-introduce an 2.0L dito sa atin.. unang altis yan..

kung gusto mo konting bump sa power without the need for swapgo intake-header-exhaust mod...then gamitan mo ng magandang langis/fluids like motul or royal purple...

[niky]

A secondhand SAFC should be around 10k or so. Haven't checked prices for a while.

Silvertops are great, but a 3SGE will give you more oomph over more of the rev range.

[renzo_d10]

a corolla is a small new family car, if you want a fast car, buy a ferrari. corollas were meant to be a get around car.

anong klaseng sagot yan ?

A secondhand SAFC should be around 10k or so. Haven't checked prices for a while.

Silvertops are great, but a 3SGE will give you more oomph over more of the rev range.

the 3SGE Beams is a great engine. 2.0L VVT-i that's around 200hp iirc. Built for economy as well as for power. I've heard that it can top up at 11km/L city if driven " economically ", however, one problem would be the stocks available ( i only know one corolla that's swapped with that kind of engine. ) It doesn't come by always, some might even require you to have the engine imported.

One slightly common engine is the locally released 3SGE that came stock with the corona. The stocks are so-so, not as common as silvertops and blacktops but you should find a decent one. patience.

There's also the 3SGTE that came with the Celica.

The Blacktop 6-speed M/T should do okay, it's around 163hp stock. If you drive around the city, then you wouldnt enjoy much of its power since it only comes at top-end - same goes with the Silvertop.

I would have recommended the 4AGE High-horse 16V coz the power comes out at low-mid end, really usable if you drive around the city often. FC is so-so, better than the 20 valvers which just plays around 7-8km/L. HOWEVER, the engine itself is a rare find. If you ever find one, most likely its gonna be either expensive or not in good shape.

Forget the 4EFTE it might be a burden for you. coz it costs a lot, had mine quoted at 60k everything BUT the FMIC which will cost me another 20k +/- though if you would want to experiment on things it can be done, though again it will cost you a lot especially if you would want to have you set back at high whp figures.

[airolynx]

a corolla is a small new family car, if you want a fast car, buy a ferrari. corollas were meant to be a get around car.

Grabe ka naman sumagot ser

TS is only asking for advice to make his car run faster. Wala naman ganyanan.... tsk tsk tsk...

[niky]

The silvertop really is the easiest to find and install... but I know of some people who favor the supercharged 4AGZE because of the extra torque.

I like the plain-jane 3SGE because, yes, it's not a screamer, but it'll be more tractable and enjoyable in the daily grind than a high-strung 20V.

[ghosthunter]

a corolla is a small new family car, if you want a fast car, buy a ferrari. corollas were meant to be a get around car.

The AE111 Corolla is actually a good car to upgrade for more performance. The front/rear balance is good which results in neutral handling along with it's relative lightweight chassis, it's great for race track purposes.

Only deficiencies the local AE111 have are: economy engine options only and brakes tend to overheat quickly.

[neozeke]

Grabe ka naman sumagot ser

TS is only asking for advice to make his car run faster. Wala naman ganyanan.... tsk tsk tsk...

ok lang yan sir... i respect his comment but a little childish... i guess i just need to be used to hearing from some r*t*rds...

[neozeke]

A secondhand SAFC should be around 10k or so. Haven't checked prices for a while.

Silvertops are great, but a 3SGE will give you more oomph over more of the rev range.

how about a brand new SAFC??? where is the best place to have this??? thanks a lot sir...

[neozeke]

7a-ge is not designed for speed but for economy....ok din naman hatak nyan...locally yan ang biggest factory engine before i-introduce an 2.0L dito sa atin.. unang altis yan..

kung gusto mo konting bump sa power without the need for swapgo intake-header-exhaust mod...then gamitan mo ng magandang langis/fluids like motul or royal purple...

thanks sir... I'll take note of that... I used to drive a Santa Fe and a Ford Mustang GT (both A/T) back in the states and I can't seem to find the power na binibigay nila in my corolla... I guess that's what I'm looking for in my corolla...

thanks again!!!

[niky]

If you're looking for that sort of low-end, instant grunt, you will definitely want to go with a bigger motor or a supercharged one. ;)

[renzo_d10]

If you're looking for that sort of low-end, instant grunt, you will definitely want to go with a bigger motor or a supercharged one. ;)

4AGZE 16V Supercharged ftw.

[neozeke]

4AGZE 16V Supercharged ftw.

is it safe to change the engine???

[niky]

Define "safe".

Safe as in: "It won't blow up and kill me..." Any half-competent shop can make a safe swap.

Safe as in: "Nothing will break and leave me stranded beside the road..." Well... any time you are swapping in a used engine, you are taking a chance. Most shops will warranty their work, and if you compression test an engine before buying it, you will have at least a little peace of mind.

Or... Safe as in: "I won't kill myself driving it..." Well... upgrade your tires, brakes and suspension to suit the power. The rest is up to you...

[airolynx]

Define "safe".

Safe as in: "It won't blow up and kill me..." Any half-competent shop can make a safe swap.

Safe as in: "Nothing will break and leave me stranded beside the road..." Well... any time you are swapping in a used engine, you are taking a chance. Most shops will warranty their work, and if you compression test an engine before buying it, you will have at least a little peace of mind.

Or... Safe as in: "I won't kill myself driving it..." Well... upgrade your tires, brakes and suspension to suit the power. The rest is up to you...

Nicely said Niky! galing talaga!!!

*TS, if you want to play on the "safe and tipid" side, i'd say go for upgrade IHE (Intake Headers Exhaust) on your stock engine. This at least is a little less invasive. It will give you a slight power gain. Pero kung gusto mo nga ng talagang oooomph, change engine is the way to go.

You can also opt to change your spark plugs and Hi Tension wires to split fire.

Econo upgrade ika nga. :D hehehe di ko lang alam how much 'gain' you will gain from this...

[neozeke]

Nicely said Niky! galing talaga!!!

*TS, if you want to play on the "safe and tipid" side, i'd say go for upgrade IHE (Intake Headers Exhaust) on your stock engine. This at least is a little less invasive. It will give you a slight power gain. Pero kung gusto mo nga ng talagang oooomph, change engine is the way to go.

You can also opt to change your spark plugs and Hi Tension wires to split fire.

Econo upgrade ika nga. :D hehehe di ko lang alam how much 'gain' you will gain from this...

oh i see... thanks for the suggestion guys...

do you have suggestions kung saan ung best na naguupgrade ng Intake, Headers, and Exhaust??? thanks...