Mineral , semi synthetic or fully synthetic?

**Egan101** · November 19th, 2020 11:18 AM

Originally Posted by Deestone

Sorry about that for spreading wrong info it was not my intention. He is the founder of honda club and had much respect for his post regarding oil pms.

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Unless it is scientifically proven or maybe after years of research/observation, I would take lightly claims from such people even more so if they are tied to a specific manufacturer which may be filled with some bias.

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**Vodka** · November 19th, 2020 12:09 PM

Originally Posted by Deestone

Sorry about that for spreading wrong info it was not my intention. He is the founder of honda club and had much respect for his post regarding oil pms.

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para lang founder ng flat earth group. doesn't matter if he gets a lot of "likes"

people are legitimizing nonsense on FB just because it gets lots of "likes". was listening last to Tristan Harris on the joe rogan podcast. he's calling it biggest psychological experiment on humanity and it's screwing us up

**StockEngine** · November 19th, 2020 05:58 PM

Originally Posted by Deestone

Sorry about that for spreading wrong info it was not my intention. He is the founder of honda club and had much respect for his post regarding oil pms.

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Never apologize bro. Oil discussions are interesting.

**jigeloh** · November 19th, 2020 06:22 PM

Jazz ko dati, mineral(10w30) and semi synthetic(5w30) lang gamit ko. Never believer sa 0w20’s ng Honda .

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**kagalingan** · November 19th, 2020 06:30 PM

if you check car user manual walang discrimination if you mineral semi or fully.

the advise usually is to change at 7,500miles so covert eh 12,000kms

ako din never naniwala sa 0w20 ni honda. Pinakamalabnaw na sa akin 5w30.

eh mga abnoy jan sa casa ang hilig sa flushing oil and engine treatment. Sarili user manual hindi sinusunod.

**Vodka** · November 19th, 2020 06:38 PM

Originally Posted by jigeloh

Jazz ko dati, mineral(10w30) and semi synthetic(5w30) lang gamit ko. Never believer sa 0w20’s ng Honda .

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my city is now 15yo. don't wanna sell it yet. 15 straight years of mineral oil. doesn't burn oil. never have to top up the oil between the 12 months between oil changes. will try to do a compression test soon

of course fully-synthetic is better for high-performance applications, or if you want your engine to last longer than it needs to

but for appliance cars mineral oil is just fine

**Vodka** · November 19th, 2020 06:47 PM

Originally Posted by kagalingan

if you check car user manual walang discrimination if you mineral semi or fully.

the advise usually is to change at 7,500miles so covert eh 12,000kms

ako di never naniwala sa 0w20 ni honda. Pinakamalabnaw na sa akin 5w30.

eh mga abnoy jan sa casa ang hilig sa flushing oil and engine treatment. Sarili user manual hindi sinusunod.

finally someone else realized what i've been saying. your car's PMS chart doesn't specify a different OCI for mineral & FS

but of course you have to understand that the casa wants to maximize profit. it's up to consumers to read the PMS chart. and to read it properly

**Egan101** · November 19th, 2020 07:30 PM

Judy check the manual and use what’s recommended. There are certain cars though that require fully synthetic due the required viscosity and API ratings.

Oks naman experience ko using 0w20 for Honda. We used it on our old City and Jazz. We are using it now on the Civic RS.

Subaru requires 0w20 for its newer NA engines but you can alternately use 5w30. For my turbo Subie, I only use the recommended FS 5w30. With my old Fiesta Ecoboost before, I use 5w30 - the alternative for the recommended 5w20.

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**oj88** · November 19th, 2020 07:34 PM

It really irks me that car manufacturers don't factor in oil quality in their recommended OCI. It's only common sense that a fully-synthetic oil is better than regular oil. It has better everything... enough so that it really should extend the OCI.

My own intuition tells me that the OCI they have in the manual are loosely based on the cheapest oil that the engine would take. By that logic, you should be able to extend the OCI if you use FS oil. By how much, only a proper UOA can tell the full story.

**StockEngine** · November 19th, 2020 08:16 PM

Originally Posted by oj88

It really irks me that car manufacturers don't factor in oil quality in their recommended OCI. It's only common sense that a fully-synthetic oil is better than regular oil. It has better everything... enough so that it really should extend the OCI.

My own intuition tells me that the OCI they have in the manual are loosely based on the cheapest oil that the engine would take. By that logic, you should be able to extend the OCI if you use FS oil. By how much, only a proper UOA can tell the full story.

Hondaph maintenance intervals seem ok to me. I compared it to honda malaysias intervals. And theyre similar.

What irks me is the 6L+ oil capacity engines that require oil changes every 6months. Manufacturers increased the capacity to extend interval intervals.