Mineral , semi synthetic or fully synthetic?

**jaggerx3** · October 26th, 2020 07:30 PM

Ako happy na sa delo 400.mgx cj-4 naman na.
Para sa Starex ko na dpf equipped

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**bloowolf** · October 26th, 2020 07:47 PM

Originally Posted by StockEngine

Glad to see c3 users1

With all the major players selling diesel SUVs, Crossovers & Vans, which of them use an ACEA C2 or C3 as their oil of choice?
I find ACEA more specific than API although I think CJ rating is low SAPS (I may be wrong).

**Wh1stl3r** · October 26th, 2020 08:45 PM

Originally Posted by bloowolf

With all the major players selling diesel SUVs, Crossovers & Vans, which of them use an ACEA C2 or C3 as their oil of choice?
I find ACEA more specific than API although I think CJ rating is low SAPS (I may be wrong).

Diesel CR-V also calls for ACEA C3 IIRC.

**StockEngine** · October 26th, 2020 08:49 PM

Originally Posted by bloowolf

With all the major players selling diesel SUVs, Crossovers & Vans, which of them use an ACEA C2 or C3 as their oil of choice?
I find ACEA more specific than API although I think CJ rating is low SAPS (I may be wrong).

Vehicle specific bro. I would love to use acea c3 but acea a3/b4 oils are cheaper in the "bundoks"

**bloowolf** · October 26th, 2020 09:18 PM

Originally Posted by StockEngine

Vehicle specific bro. I would love to use acea c3 but acea a3/b4 oils are cheaper in the "bundoks"

What I meanth was, even now with E4 diesel vehicles being sold &requirements call for low SAPS oils like C2 or C3, do you know of casas that have that standard? Only one I know is LAUS group but, their oil is Voltronic which is too pricey.
Off the shelf, hard to find C2 or 3. Brands that have it are Xteer, Kixx, Cyclon & Voltronic, to my knowledge.

**bloowolf** · October 26th, 2020 09:20 PM

Originally Posted by Wh1stl3r

Diesel CR-V also calls for ACEA C3 IIRC.

But does the Casa use it? Or just say Euro 4?

**StockEngine** · October 26th, 2020 11:48 PM

Originally Posted by bloowolf

What I meanth was, even now with E4 diesel vehicles being sold &requirements call for low SAPS oils like C2 or C3, do you know of casas that have that standard? Only one I know is LAUS group but, their oil is Voltronic which is too pricey.
Off the shelf, hard to find C2 or 3. Brands that have it are Xteer, Kixx, Cyclon & Voltronic, to my knowledge.

For ford they only require ab/b5
Chevy is dexos
Toyota and mitsu they follow api c-class

Not sure about honda/mazda's diesel vehicle requirement..

**travajante** · October 27th, 2020 12:50 AM

Originally Posted by bloowolf

What I meanth was, even now with E4 diesel vehicles being sold &requirements call for low SAPS oils like C2 or C3, do you know of casas that have that standard? Only one I know is LAUS group but, their oil is Voltronic which is too pricey.
Off the shelf, hard to find C2 or 3. Brands that have it are Xteer, Kixx, Cyclon & Voltronic, to my knowledge.

The Mazda dealership here uses this for all SkyD units.

And this for all SkyGs.

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**LOLZ** · October 27th, 2020 01:32 AM

Originally Posted by bloowolf

With all the major players selling diesel SUVs, Crossovers & Vans, which of them use an ACEA C2 or C3 as their oil of choice?
I find ACEA more specific than API although I think CJ rating is low SAPS (I may be wrong).

It seems that for Nissan/Mitsubishi and Toyota they'll only require for Acea C-class oils for DPF equipped vehicles for Euro 5+ standards

Toyota non DPF ACEA B1 API CF/CF4 (Also CD and CE for KD engines)
Toyota DPF: ACEA C2
Nissan YD25: ACEA B1 B3 B4 B5 API CF4
Nissan YD25(DPF): ACEA C3 or C4
Nissan YS23:ACEA C3 (C3 or C4 for navara)
Mitsubisihi 4N14/4N15/4D56(DPF): ACEA C1 C2 C3 C4
Mitsubisihi 4D56/4N15(non DPF): ACEA A1/B1, A3/B3 A4/B4 A5/B5 api CD

**bloowolf** · October 27th, 2020 09:03 AM

Originally Posted by LOLZ

It seems that for Nissan/Mitsubishi and Toyota they'll only require for Acea C-class oils for DPF equipped vehicles for Euro 5+ standards

Toyota non DPF ACEA B1 API CF/CF4 (Also CD and CE for KD engines)
Toyota DPF: ACEA C2
Nissan YD25: ACEA B1 B3 B4 B5 API CF4
Nissan YD25(DPF): ACEA C3 or C4
Nissan YS23:ACEA C3 (C3 or C4 for navara)
Mitsubisihi 4N14/4N15/4D56(DPF): ACEA C1 C2 C3 C4
Mitsubisihi 4D56/4N15(non DPF): ACEA A1/B1, A3/B3 A4/B4 A5/B5 api CD

I noticed that what you are refering to are recommendations from the manual. The question is whether the Casa follows that recommendation cause My brother’s New Montero & Fortuner’s oil cans just say for “recommended for diesel engines” but does not specify the ACEA class, just the SAE grade. Apparently, recom in the manual is different from what they actually do in the casa here & we all know sakit na ng casa yan. When I asked the Advisor in my casa why they arn’t using the right oil? Sagot sakin “basta po pang diesel”. Using the specific oil will actually extend the drain interval, you know.