Mineral , semi synthetic or fully synthetic?

**oj88** · January 30th, 2019 12:52 PM

Originally Posted by attyallanlatras

Some say that since we do not have winter in the Philippines so the first number does not really matter. It is the second number which is crucial.

The first number is not as critical, but it is still important. If it didn't, manufacturers will still be recommending straight viscosity oils in the manual.

It is important because a lower first number would mean that the oil can much more easily start flowing to get to all engine parts faster upon starting.

**XTO** · January 30th, 2019 01:22 PM

Originally Posted by attyallanlatras

Mararamdaman nyo ba agad agad yung difference if you use a fully synthetic oil vs just a mineral oil? Or would it be the long term effect?

hi atty, kung 5w30 ang recommended meron nyan ang zic. baka meron dyan or marami sellers who can ship. very smooth sya on may 3.2 monty mura mura pa.

https://www.*******/all-results?q=zic+oil+5w30

**shelu** · February 5th, 2019 02:13 PM

on the benefit of using Fully Synthetic Oil is more on the duration of the use of such oil in the engine such as 10,000 km vs the mineral oil which has a life of not more than 5,000 kms.

Delo 400 mgx is a mineral oil but it has been tested for 80k kms.

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**StockEngine** · February 6th, 2019 12:28 AM

Originally Posted by shelu

on the benefit of using Fully Synthetic Oil is more on the duration of the use of such oil in the engine such as 10,000 km vs the mineral oil which has a life of not more than 5,000 kms.

Delo 400 mgx is a mineral oil but it has been tested for 80k kms.

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bro 80,000km is possible for buses only. because they have some 40liters of engine oil and several oil filters to use up.

this 80,000kmoil drain interval is not applicable to 3-4 liters of oil

**mokong22** · February 6th, 2019 01:31 AM

Originally Posted by StockEngine

bro 80,000km is possible for buses only. because they have some 40liters of engine oil and several oil filters to use up.

this 80,000kmoil drain interval is not applicable to 3-4 liters of oil

Nasa 32liters average ang oil sump Ng mga bus ngayon.

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**StockEngine** · February 6th, 2019 01:59 AM

Originally Posted by mokong22

Nasa 32liters average ang oil sump Ng mga bus ngayon.

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its varies, depending on the engine displacement and manufacturer.

**mokong22** · February 6th, 2019 09:04 AM

Originally Posted by StockEngine

its varies, depending on the engine displacement and manufacturer.

Overkill yang 40liters Wala pa akong. Nakitang bus na 40liters ang engine oil capacity lolz... Kung meron man baka mga super size bus as ibang bansa

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**oj88** · February 6th, 2019 10:02 AM

Originally Posted by mokong22

Overkill yang 40liters Wala pa akong. Nakitang bus na 40liters ang engine oil capacity lolz... Kung meron man baka mga super size bus as ibang bansa

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So, meron.

Anyway, SE wasn't too far off the mark... at least, that is based on my limited research. Typical bus engines have between 16 to 37 liters of engine oil. And yes, it depends on displacement and manufacturer.

**attyallanlatras** · February 6th, 2019 02:27 PM

My 25,000 PMS for my Toyota Fortuner is due soon. I have been reading several threads and I am quite convince with the explanations made in those threads that there are better oil filters than what casa is offering. I bought a Baldwin Oil Filter for my fortuner and would want Toyota casa install that Baldwin oil filter, instead of their OEM oil filter. My scheduled PMS is actually just a top-up of 1 liter fully synthetic oil (5w30) and change of oil filter. So my question is would Toyota casa allow me if I ask them to install the Baldwin Oil Filter? Would they refuse and worse consider voiding my warranty?

**StockEngine** · February 6th, 2019 02:33 PM

Originally Posted by attyallanlatras

My 25,000 PMS for my Toyota Fortuner is due soon. I have been reading several threads and I am quite convince with the explanations made in those threads that there are better oil filters than what casa is offering. I bought a Baldwin Oil Filter for my fortuner and would want Toyota casa install that Baldwin oil filter, instead of their OEM oil filter. My scheduled PMS is actually just a top-up of 1 liter fully synthetic oil (5w30) and change of oil filter. So my question is would Toyota casa allow me if I ask them to install the Baldwin Oil Filter? Would they refuse and worse consider voiding my warranty?

better filters as per spec. but have you heard of toyota engines failing because of their oil filters? engine failures occur because some forget changing their oils.