Mineral , semi synthetic or fully synthetic?

[susikey]

based on my brothers car i would say simple 5k oil will do but do the change oil every 3-4k (better than maximizing the estimated life of the oil)

Just want to clarify if malabnaw ba talaga yung viscosity na 30 para sa hot weather natin dito sa pinas? sa mga nababasa ko it's 30 vs 40 some say malabnaw ang 30, some say ok lang lalo sa mga modern model ng mga sasakyan. Magpapachange oil ako this month, 5w30 yung engine oil na pinalit sa 'kin nung huli kong pms sa casa, pero if it's too thin, mag 40 ako.

[StockEngine]

Just want to clarify if malabnaw ba talaga yung viscosity na 30 para sa hot weather natin dito sa pinas? sa mga nababasa ko it's 30 vs 40 some say malabnaw ang 30, some say ok lang lalo sa mga modern model ng mga sasakyan. Magpapachange oil ako this month, 5w30 yung engine oil na pinalit sa 'kin nung huli kong pms sa casa, pero if it's too thin, mag 40 ako.

Follow owners manual.

[Gian Paulo]

[QUOTE=susikey;2792753]Just want to clarify if malabnaw ba talaga yung viscosity na 30 para sa hot weather natin dito sa pinas? sa mga nababasa ko it's 30 vs 40 some say malabnaw ang 30, some say ok lang lalo sa mga modern model ng mga sasakyan. Magpapachange oil ako this month, 5w30 yung engine oil na pinalit sa 'kin nung huli kong pms sa casa, pero if it's too thin, mag 40 ako.

Excerpts from Berrima "OIL STEAM EFFECT- Using oils such as 0W30 or 10W30 in our Philippines temperatures drastically increases the amount of engine oil steam/fumes being created by your engine. These fumes lead to excessive inlet manifold oil build up which greatly increases carbon build up and blockages from the EGR (Exhaust Gas Recirculation System).

THE ARGUMENTS-
-"I need a thin oil to help with cold start up". We know this argument is wrong as the lowest temperatures that the majority of Filipinos live in is no where near -15'C (using a 15W40).
-"A thick oil wont lubricate". Muligrade oils are thin at start up based on the low index number, and resist thinning based the high index number.
-"I need an 'oil catch can' to catch engine oil fumes". If you use the right oil viscosity for our Philippines climate such as a 15W40 or 15W50 or 20W50, you will greatly reduce the oil steaming effect of hot engine oil reducing the need for an oil catch can.
-"The manufacturer recommends a 10W30 oil, I must use it". While the manufacturer might say this, the reality is that its the wrong oil for The Philippines. Car makers in Japan. Europe and North America live in a climate far cooler to us here. Whilst the factory choice of oil may be ok for use in the initial engine fill, it does not suit our hot climate for continued use."

[StockEngine]

I wonder why honda uses 5w30 and 5w20 in the Philippines.

Berima probably makes more engines than Honda?

[crazy_boy]

May 0w20 na requirements na ngayon yung mga new engines, kahit na sa warm climate. Exception nalang parati is yung cars sold in middle east


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[JJB]

Just want to clarify if malabnaw ba talaga yung viscosity na 30 para sa hot weather natin dito sa pinas? sa mga nababasa ko it's 30 vs 40 some say malabnaw ang 30, some say ok lang lalo sa mga modern model ng mga sasakyan. Magpapachange oil ako this month, 5w30 yung engine oil na pinalit sa 'kin nung huli kong pms sa casa, pero if it's too thin, mag 40 ako.

yup, follow your car's manual.
Older engines need thicker oil like 40-50 while newer engines usually just need 30-40 grade oil.
definitely I wont recommended 20 grade oil in Manila weather and traffic. Pwede kung sa baguio ka nakatira

[desertst0rm]

[QUOTE=Gian Paulo;2793106]

Just want to clarify if malabnaw ba talaga yung viscosity na 30 para sa hot weather natin dito sa pinas? sa mga nababasa ko it's 30 vs 40 some say malabnaw ang 30, some say ok lang lalo sa mga modern model ng mga sasakyan. Magpapachange oil ako this month, 5w30 yung engine oil na pinalit sa 'kin nung huli kong pms sa casa, pero if it's too thin, mag 40 ako.

Excerpts from Berrima "OIL STEAM EFFECT- Using oils such as 0W30 or 10W30 in our Philippines temperatures drastically increases the amount of engine oil steam/fumes being created by your engine. These fumes lead to excessive inlet manifold oil build up which greatly increases carbon build up and blockages from the EGR (Exhaust Gas Recirculation System).


THE ARGUMENTS-
-"I need a thin oil to help with cold start up". We know this argument is wrong as the lowest temperatures that the majority of Filipinos live in is no where near -15'C (using a 15W40).
-"A thick oil wont lubricate". Muligrade oils are thin at start up based on the low index number, and resist thinning based the high index number.
-"I need an 'oil catch can' to catch engine oil fumes". If you use the right oil viscosity for our Philippines climate such as a 15W40 or 15W50 or 20W50, you will greatly reduce the oil steaming effect of hot engine oil reducing the need for an oil catch can.
-"The manufacturer recommends a 10W30 oil, I must use it". While the manufacturer might say this, the reality is that its the wrong oil for The Philippines. Car makers in Japan. Europe and North America live in a climate far cooler to us here. Whilst the factory choice of oil may be ok for use in the initial engine fill, it does not suit our hot climate for continued use."

If you use thicker oil viscosity mababawasan nga yung blowby lalakas naman fuel consumption mo at mas mabilis masisira engine mo. Example, plastic spoon gagamitin mo panghalo ng malapot. Kung dahan-dahan ang halo OK lang pero it takes more effort to stir. Pag binilisan mo mababali yung spoon. A timing chain engine requires thinner oil on startup because of the hydraulic tensioner, it needs to remove the slack on the timing chain as quick as possible. Pag sobrang lapot ng langis di agad gagana tensioner papalo yung chain sa cover or plastic na guide.

0W50, 10W50 & SAE 50 have the same viscosity under normal engine operating temp.

5W20, 5W30 & 5W40 same viscosity when cold.

Kahit anong oil gamitin mo walang magbabago kasi hindi naman oil ang problema.
Kaya malakas ang blowby dahil sa Ethanol. Lakas pa mag absorb ng moisture. Most engine wear happens after oil change. Lalo na kung malaki yung filter at di puno ng oil. Pag start ng engine di naman agad aakyat yung oil sa pick-up tube then pupunuin pa filter before pa umakyat sa cyclinder head. Try mo ikutin yung engine kung gano katagal at kadaming ikot before lumabas oil sa may filter. 1,000rpm =16 revolution
makaka several turn yung engine na walang oil. . Sa cold start kung may check valve ang oil filter pag start may oil agad. Pwede rin maglagay ng friction reducter tulad ng MoS2. Lahat ng assembly lube noon meron noon. Pag walang MoS2 or (ZDDP Diesel Oil) start up pa lang sira agad ang camshaft (Gas Engine) flat tappet.

DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA HOW HUGE CAMSHAFT JOURNAL OIL CLEARANCE IN A MODERN ENGINE???
0.00180 - 0.00390 inch (0.030 - 0.099mm)

One Thousand Peso Bill = 0.003 inch (0.0762mm)


Baka may mag react na environmentalist drinking Carbonated Kool-Aid...

SCIENTIFIC FACT: Hydrocarbon or raw fuel can be extracted out of thin air.
co2 dissolves in water then form Calcium Carbonate (Limestone, Marble, etc.) Potassium Carbonate, Sodium Carbonate, etc.. Plants use Carbon Dioxide to make food. Softdrinks has co2.

DELETE the PCV Valve. Plugged the intake then install a filter for the crankcase or use a catch can. PROBLEM SOLVED! Engine oils are hygroscopic, isn't it stupid to push more air that has a lot of moisture?

[oj88]

The best oil is useless if it doesn't get to where it's needed. Remember that higher viscosity oil is NOT always better. For starters, flow rate is reduced the higher you go. Engine designers choose what is the best viscosity for a certain engine while factoring in oil flow, engine tolerance, and load characteristics to best protect the engine.

I'd use whatever the engine designers recommend... aka, the owner's manual. In modern engines, choosing oil viscosity for a specific engine have relied less on the environmental temperature. What with engines having a regulated cooling system... they all operate whereabouts of 100C regardless of the outside temperature. That said, the operating temp of the oil is the same once the engine has reached operating temp, whether you're in Japan, US, or Brazil. Thanks to thermostats, the operating temp is reached after just a few minutes of driving.

[JJB]

The best oil is useless if it doesn't get to where it's needed. Remember that higher viscosity oil is NOT always better. For starters, flow rate is reduced the higher you go. Engine designers choose what is the best viscosity for a certain engine while factoring in oil flow, engine tolerance, and load characteristics to best protect the engine.

I'd use whatever the engine designers recommend... aka, the owner's manual. In modern engines, choosing oil viscosity for a specific engine have relied less on the environmental temperature. What with engines having a regulated cooling system... they all operate whereabouts of 100C regardless of the outside temperature. That said, the operating temp of the oil is the same once the engine has reached operating temp, whether you're in Japan, US, or Brazil. Thanks to thermostats, the operating temp is reached after just a few minutes of driving.

Wow never knew that outside temperature is negligible now for engine temp.
How will we know if there's a regulated engine cooling system in your engine?


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[oj88]

Wow never knew that outside temperature is negligible now for engine temp.
How will we know if there's a regulated engine cooling system in your engine?


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