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    #1
    with all the opinions i'm reading about our current local diesel not being fit for CRDi technology.. sana we can do some sort of survey here:

    1. what type / year / make model of vehicle with CRD engine? (isuzu trooper? dmax? hilux?)
    2. how old are your vehicles
    3. have you experienced troubles with your engine and if so ano ang nature ng sira? anything engine related although maaaring remotely connected with the quality of diesel we have... malay natin di ba, pinagtatakpan lang ng mga service centers yung fact na diesel talaga natin ang problem...

    i just want to prove or disprove na yung diesel natin ay fit / unfit for CRD engines..

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    i think the 1st local crdi to be made available was the trooper 4jx1, dami ko na kilala including mine ha, nasira yung crdi namin.

    now ive talked to the wheels personnel and sabi nila, yung rexton n sorrento na crdi will suffer the same fate kasi nga bulok ang diesel natin. cguro in a year or 2, they'll start stacking up on the injectors which is usually the culprit in crdi engines dto sa pinas.

    i think sa x5 ganun din.
    Last edited by KCboy; May 20th, 2005 at 06:42 PM.

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    excuse me for my ignorance..but can you refresh me and maybe the others what crdi stands for and it's purpose on a diesel engine.

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    CRDi -> Common Rail Direct injection

    correct me if am wrong

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    yup, that's what it stands for.

    it's basically a way to deliver diesel through high-pressure injectors on a common rail/line

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    With today's diesel prices, the fuel giants should, at least, add some quality to our diesel fuel! Do they think every diesel vehicle in the RP is a jeepney? Are they that stooopid?

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    tanong lang uli...

    ano diff nung CRDi sa mga injection system ng for example sa Frontier?

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    crdi does not have an injection pump. direct na. kaya dapat less black smoke but we have shitty diesels so black talaga.

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    kcboy: pls share naman in detail what was the 4jx1's problem in your trooper and the others na nasiraan din. or if you have posted it na before, paki share na lang yung thread. tnx.

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    sa trooper, the injectors just get clogged, thru time, u feel ur engine getting weaker and stalls sometimes until it just doesn't want to start or just dies on you while running, for me ayaw na magstart. a couple of my friends, namatayan, had to get their troopers towed pa. sa mga hi end vehicles like x5, siguro mamatay o maaffected pa yung ibang parts. sama talaga diesel natin dito,
    Last edited by KCboy; May 21st, 2005 at 12:02 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KCboy
    sa trooper, the injectors just gets clogged, thru time, ur feel ur engine getting and stalls sometimes until it just doesn't want to start or just dies on you while running, for me ayaw na magstart. a couple of my friends, namatayan, had to get their troopers towed pa. sa mga hi end vehicles like x5, siguro mamatay o maaffected pa yung ibang parts. sama talaga diesel natin dito,
    KCboy, so how do get it fixed? does it entail injector replacement or could it be cleaned and recalibrated later? did you follow maintenance schedule of filter replacement religiously? how about in the other threads i've heard of suggesting doubling the filter - do you think it would work?. tnx for sharing info.

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    how many kms have you travelled when those symptoms started coming out? this was around two years ago ba?

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    ang trick dyan e nasa filtration......have an extra fuel filter installed and regularly check it. and go to one regular gas station when filling up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KCboy
    sa trooper, the injectors just gets clogged, thru time, ur feel ur engine getting and stalls sometimes until it just doesn't want to start or just dies on you while running, for me ayaw na magstart. a couple of my friends, namatayan, had to get their troopers towed pa. sa mga hi end vehicles like x5, siguro mamatay o maaffected pa yung ibang parts. sama talaga diesel natin dito,
    hmm.. ano kaya ang plano ng mga dealers here.. 2 years is within the warranty period pa ah.. tapos ganyan ang mangyayari... if and when this behavior exhibits itself after the warranty period.. may lusot na sila.. pero pag within... problem nila to..

    considering na ang lakas ng benta ng innova at napakarami ay diesel ang kinukuha... ano kaya ang plano at strategy ng toyota about this issue?

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    24000kms nun when it first exhibited the symptoms, may ginawa p asila nun para gumanda but after a few months, bumalik ulit at wala na daw sa warranty so i had to pay 47000 p to replace the injectors, u can double the filters but it would just delay the inevitable, screwed up injectors. disposable daw yun so once its clogged, palit na.

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    i remember once a mechanic in san juan told me that if you're running a CRDi vehicle, you should stick to one particular brand of diesel, I forget which one if it's Total or Shell.

    My dad is running a European vehicle with a hi-performance diesel...he's using two fuel filters and monitoring those two filters on a regular basis. Though, he claims the sound of the engine has changed a bit since he bought the car. Km reading is above the indicated 24000 expected lifespan mentioned here.

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    pasensya na po, not very knowledgeable about this stuff. i see some shops selling fuel injector cleaners. di ba uubra to?

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    al motor,
    what car are you talking about so i would know? crdi ba? not all people have the knowledge n capabilities to take the extra steps you've mentioned above. my point is sir is that most crdi engines will fail and cannot take the dirty diesels that we have po. i just hope the government and the big 3 oil companies take steps in refining much cleaner diesels.

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    kcboy:

    question, what is the percentage that the fuel injector of crdi cars will break? is it 80%? because if the percentage is quite big, then that's really a problem.

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