Help! AT Civic biglang namatay makina, ayaw na mag-start

[garci]

While going down a mall parking lot, the engine of my old backup car, a '94 Automatic Transmission Civic suddenly shut off and won't restart again. May naamoy kaming parang sunog na wire nung namatay ang engine. Nawalan din ng power steering and brakes.

Mukhang ok naman ang battery since malakas naman mag-crank ang starter. Di lang makatuloy. What I noticed is naka-light ang engine and oil indicator and other indicators whenever I try to start. At first akala ko natuyuan ng gasoline kasi di ko napansin na paubos na pala (stupid me) ang laman pero ayaw pa rin after we added a few liters. Pinatow na lang namin tuloy pauwi.

Medyo not well-maintained itong car na ito kasi bihira lang gamitin. Peroi hinihiram sa amin from time to time kaya iba iba ang nagdra-drive.

What's wrong kaya? Saan kaya ok pa repair?

[jacknigel]

distributor yan malamang...pa check mo.

[Autobeat]

As you turn the ignition switch to ON, wait a few seconds to observe the check engine light, before starting the car. Does the Check Engine light go off? If it goes off after a few seconds, do you hear the distinct "click" sound as the light goes off?

[ian_rex]

my bet sir is ECU...

[garci]

Autobeat: Nope, the engine indicator does not go off.

Jacknigel: That's what I suspect since amamoy dun sa loob ng car pero hopefully not.

Saan ba pwede ipadiagnose? Mahal sigurado sa Casa. How much ba ECU nowadays kung ito talaga sira?

[OTEP]

Kahit sa P or N ayaw na din po magstart?

[garci]

Kahit sa P or N ayaw na din po magstart?

Yup nasa P naman. nagcra-crank ang starter pero ayaw tumuloy.

[finchy18]

Hope Not :

Short Circuit due to friction while driving and busted the ECU .

Hope So :

Distributor lang

[ronald_m]

If you have a check engine light on,Have it scan for error code.Don't jump into conclusion.

[speedyfix]

where are you? it might be better to get the opinion of your suking talyer rather than comming to conclusions you're not sure are correct.

[mbeige]

Kung namatayan ka ng makina dahil nawalan ng fuel, fill it up and put the key to the ON position but do not start the car. Do this a few times to let the fuel pump put in fuel sa engine. Then after a few tries, start it again. Hopefully eto lang...

You said no power steering and no brakes? I think this is a secondary effect nung namatay yung makina.

Have you had the timing belt replaced na? Oil level ok naman? How about the belts?

[[Z]ippo]

where are you? it might be better to get the opinion of your suking talyer rather than comming to conclusions you're not sure are correct.

Try mo sa kanila magaling yan sa mga A/T models hehehe

[theveed]

Unang kutob ko no fuel din, happened to my brother in law's ESI as well, paexit sya ng parking ramp (pababa) then namatay oto, ayaw mag start... When we poured 1.5 liters of fuel in, I "primed" the fuel lines twice before starting, it didn't start at first, then sa 2nd time nagstart pero rough, after a few minutes of revving ok na sya.

Pero kakatakot yung "amoy sunog" na sinabi nyo... Usually kung naamoy mo na yung ganun na smell, medyo malaki na ang nasunog.

[garci]

Theeved and Mbeige


Thanks I'll give it a try tomorrow.

SPeedyfix;
Sta.Ana Manila ako. Where is your shop?

[evs_13]

ako rin nagyari na sa akin yan, bigla na lng huminto. kala ko battery or carburator, yun pala wala nga gas kahit medyo mataas pa rin yung indicator ng gas. ang ginawa ng mechanic, binuhusan nya ng kunti yng carb ng gas, yun nag start naman sa second try.

[garci]

Tried to start the car this morning. Ayaw pa rin. Just noticed na nakailaw yung D3 indicator. Ayaw pumatay.

[ronald_m]

shiet.I didn't know you have a 94' civic.I don't know how to manually scan your car since its pre OBDII.

[garci]

Confirmed. Ecu is busted. May dumating na mechanic and sunog nga yung ecu. Hindi na yata ma-repair since may tama na yung circuit board. Saan ba merong surplus na ok?

[obiwan]

did the mechanic check the TIMING BELT? I replaced mine (same year model) after 80k mileage

[baludoy]

any symptoms you noticed prior to the actual shorting of your ecu bos? any warning signs?

sa hcpi selling thread may nakita ako nyan dati binebenta.

found the link.not sure if this is adaptable to your car though
http://z3.invisionfree.com/HCP/index.php?showtopic=8588