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  1. Join Date
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    #11
    You can't use the Crosswind engine, not easily. You would need to twist the engine around to mate with the stock transmission... or at least a manuat transmission (surplus) from an older Escape. You can't fit the Crosswind 4JA1 in its original north-south configuration without cutting out and rewelding the rear firewall and replacing the rear differential and transmission with the set-up from a Crosswind.

    Estimated cost... ohh... about 180k pesos, more or less... that's assuming you can get an engine and transmission for just 80-90k pesos. The rest of the cost is to cover the tons of custom fabrication and replacing the rear transaxle and welding in new mounting points for the rear suspension and differential... oh, and the new fuel system that has to be plumbed in. You can possibly do it cheaper... if you don't mind how ghetto it looks.

    If you mate it to the stock transmission, save about 60-80k for the engine, then an adapter plate and machine work (re-splining) on the crankshaft for the transmission... maybe 20k plus. If your Escape is automatic, then budget money for a new transmission, also. About 150k (conservative), and you'll need to find a shop that really knows how to do engine swaps... because this will be all custom work.

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    The Focus diesel has never been offered in an Escape. You would need to source the engine from a wrecked Focus TDCi, and pull the entire wiring harness out, as well as the body control modules... expect to spend around half-a-million for a wrecked Focus diesel (engine alone should cost about 250k pesos)... then another 100-150k pesos and about six months to a year for the swap... if it's even possible.

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    Now... for realistic options...

    Try to contact the secondhand Mazda engine suppliers who hang around Mazdatech.org or Fordclubph.com and source yourself a secondhand Escape engine. Congratulations! You're done!

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    If you really want a diesel, the closest fit will be a 2.0 Mazda RF diesel engine. It was not used in any Ford/Mazda products locally, but I think it may have been used in a number of Kias. This gives you the best chance of having engine mounts that fit or are similar enough to require minimum fabrication, as well as the proper axle lengths. And those engines don't have incredibly complicated electronics with them. Since they were offered in front-wheel drive, they present the minimum amount of refabrication to your Escape.

    Another realistic possibility is a Nissan CD20 engine, as used in the AD Resort. No electronics either, but will require more customization.

    Neither of these engines is very powerful, and the swap will be complex, but at least they should work. To give yourself the least headache possible, source the engines with transmissions, axles and hubs already... otherwise be prepared to spend for a lot of machine-work adapting your stock hubs to the engine's driveaxle/CV Joints or adapting your stock transmission to the engine. One is expensive, the other is painfully expensive.
    Last edited by niky; April 29th, 2011 at 03:50 PM.

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

  2. Join Date
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    #12
    Quote Originally Posted by niky View Post
    You can't use the Crosswind engine, not easily. You would need to twist the engine around to mate with the stock transmission... or at least a manuat transmission (surplus) from an older Escape. You can't fit the Crosswind 4JA1 in its original north-south configuration without cutting out and rewelding the rear firewall and replacing the rear differential and transmission with the set-up from a Crosswind.

    Estimated cost... ohh... about 180k pesos, more or less... that's assuming you can get an engine and transmission for just 80-90k pesos. The rest of the cost is to cover the tons of custom fabrication and replacing the rear transaxle and welding in new mounting points for the rear suspension and differential... oh, and the new fuel system that has to be plumbed in. You can possibly do it cheaper... if you don't mind how ghetto it looks.

    If you mate it to the stock transmission, save about 60-80k for the engine, then an adapter plate and machine work (re-splining) on the crankshaft for the transmission... maybe 20k plus. If your Escape is automatic, then budget money for a new transmission, also. About 150k (conservative), and you'll need to find a shop that really knows how to do engine swaps... because this will be all custom work.

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    The Focus diesel has never been offered in an Escape. You would need to source the engine from a wrecked Focus TDCi, and pull the entire wiring harness out, as well as the body control modules... expect to spend around half-a-million for a wrecked Focus diesel (engine alone should cost about 250k pesos)... then another 100-150k pesos and about six months to a year for the swap... if it's even possible.

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    Now... for realistic options...

    Try to contact the secondhand Mazda engine suppliers who hang around Mazdatech.org or Fordclubph.com and source yourself a secondhand Escape engine. Congratulations! You're done!

    -

    If you really want a diesel, the closest fit will be a 2.0 Mazda RF diesel engine. It was not used in any Ford/Mazda products locally, but I think it may have been used in a number of Kias. This gives you the best chance of having engine mounts that fit or are similar enough to require minimum fabrication, as well as the proper axle lengths. And those engines don't have incredibly complicated electronics with them. Since they were offered in front-wheel drive, they present the minimum amount of refabrication to your Escape.

    Another realistic possibility is a Nissan CD20 engine, as used in the AD Resort. No electronics either, but will require more customization.

    Neither of these engines is very powerful, and the swap will be complex, but at least they should work. To give yourself the least headache possible, source the engines with transmissions, axles and hubs already... otherwise be prepared to spend for a lot of machine-work adapting your stock hubs to the engine's driveaxle/CV Joints or adapting your stock transmission to the engine. One is expensive, the other is painfully expensive.

    This is another way of saying: if you can just have it overhauled, just overhaul it and scrap the idea of swapping your engine to diesel.

    +1 on this post above, if you convert your escape to diesel, not only will it be the start of a never ending series of headaches, it's possible resale value will crash to the ground.

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    #13
    Quote Originally Posted by airolynx View Post
    This is another way of saying: if you can just have it overhauled, just overhaul it and scrap the idea of swapping your engine to diesel.

    +1 on this post above, if you convert your escape to diesel, not only will it be the start of a never ending series of headaches, it's possible resale value will crash to the ground.
    Very well said. Korek ka jan.

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    #14
    Quote Originally Posted by niky View Post
    [b]Another realistic possibility is a Nissan CD20 engine, as used in the AD Resort. No electronics either, but will require more customization.
    UP.UP.UP. I own an escape which was swapped from V6 to CD20 (standard, crappy engine). Would it make sense or better if the engine be swapped again to a CD20T (Turbo)? Would it make any difference performance wise?

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help po! what diesel engine I can swap on my Ford escape?