Has anyone tried Hydrogen Combustion Engines?

[ghosthunter]

Sir marg,yong SCAM na pinalabas ng multinational oil companies sa U.S. ay move nila para harangin na lumabas sa market tong hydrogen fuel,You know Why? Kasi,sayang ang billion of dollars na investment nila sa exflorations,samantalang,we can extract hydrogen energy sa simpleng electrolysis process.In due time,ilabas ko sa market tong imbensyon na to.

You don't extract "hydrogen energy" when you do electrolysis of water.

Another pseudo-science mumbo jumbo that a so-called scientist trying to pass on for real science.

[marg]

Sir marg,yong SCAM na pinalabas ng multinational oil companies sa U.S. ay move nila para harangin na lumabas sa market tong hydrogen fuel,You know Why? Kasi,sayang ang billion of dollars na investment nila sa exflorations,samantalang,we can extract hydrogen energy sa simpleng electrolysis process.In due time,ilabas ko sa market tong imbensyon na to.

MR. DINGLE, is that you? Hahahaha

[WispherWind]

May i ask how did your brother measured the 25%-30% FE? Kasi pag road testing lang, IMO, it is not valid. Pa iba-iba yung driving habit, traffic pattern etc..siguro like on a dyno or something na repeatable yung tests then puede.

I am not convinced with this product. Pero curious ako since if this can really produce kahit na 20km/liter lang, on a fleet of inter-island cargo haulers ang laki ng ma save nun kahit na 29k per install in the long run bawi talaga.

unfortunately sir hindi na sya nag pa-dyno. he tested it ung diretsong biyahe...i mean no traffic at all, may part kasi sa la union area na diretso ang road and no traffic at all.... the figures presented are not accurate as it should but close, kay range po ung binigay namin...the thing is may naramdamang improvement... by the way rapide ba may dyno...hindi ko kasi sure kung meron sila, i'll recommend it to my brother para near accurate ung data...thanks anyway...

drive safe------->

[rocksteadyian]

energie_mgt

Pwede po ba nyong ivideo yung device ninyo? Gusto ko sana makita?

I am always interested sa mga ganitong developments. Bumili kasi ako ng HHO device dati kaso nasira ko nung nilinis ko yung device.

Maganda pa naman ang performance ng sasakyan ko sa HHO device na yun.

200 pesos na worth of gas nuong mga around ber months na ng 2009, apat na balik from Bacoor to Tordesillas makati. Naka Aircon pa!

[voltscastillo]

kalokohan ito.

put hydrogen into a conventional combustion engine and it will explode (the whole engine, i mean).

which is why there's a bit of trouble with mass producing hydrogen powered cars. hydrogen is hard to manufacture, and hard to store because it's so explosive. it takes more energy to extract hydrogen from water than to pull oil from the ground.

[reym]

kalokohan ito.

put hydrogen into a conventional combustion engine and it will explode (the whole engine, i mean).

which is why there's a bit of trouble with mass producing hydrogen powered cars. hydrogen is hard to manufacture, and hard to store because it's so explosive. it takes more energy to extract hydrogen from water than to pull oil from the ground.

The engine will not explode when you fuel it with fuel hydrogen, because hydrogen has less power per pound than gasoline. One of the advantage of hydrogen is that it can burn without oxygen. There is an episode in mythbusters where they feed the engine with hydrogen from tank. the car started and reved ok.

[aejhayl17]

The engine will not explode when you fuel it with fuel hydrogen, because hydrogen has less power per pound than gasoline. One of the advantage of hydrogen is that it can burn without oxygen. There is an episode in mythbusters where they feed the engine with hydrogen from tank. the car started and reved ok.

but it backfired. the verdict was plausible.

[reym]

It only backfired because hydrogen burns faster than gasoline. The ignition timing should be retarded.

[niky]

The engine will not explode when you fuel it with fuel hydrogen, because hydrogen has less power per pound than gasoline. One of the advantage of hydrogen is that it can burn without oxygen. There is an episode in mythbusters where they feed the engine with hydrogen from tank. the car started and reved ok.

Correction... Hydrogen from electrolysis. Because when you electrolyze water, you get both hydrogen and oxygen. Which is why the engine turned over. No oxygen, no combustion.

What it can't do is supply itself with enough hydrogen and oxygen from water via electrolysis run by an onboard system to keep running. At best, you could create a charge-depleting system where an onboard battery provides the power to electrolyze the water, the engine burns it to run the car, and an alternator is used to (slightly) recharge the battery. The battery will eventually run out, of course (TANSTAAFL - there ain't no such thing as a free lunch), but replacing some of the charge will extend the range somewhat.

The BIG problem is, electrolysis is a very power hungry process... for the huge amount of battery power you need to run the car on electrolysis sourced hydrogen alone, you could run the car much further with a simple electrical drive motor.

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Hydrogen boost systems are something else, entirely... but the big problem is whether they actually provide any more benefit than water injection, which can be used in a similar capacity as an octane booster, to prevent knock and allow you to lean out the fuel charge enough to run with less gasoline.

Actually... going by dyno evidence, water injection is probably more effective... (expect devildoc to chime in any moment now... :hysterical: )

[Type 100]

It takes significant retooling of an internal combustion engine to be able to run on hydrogen.

That said, it's been done:
BMW - Hydrogen7 (converted, dual fuel, can't remember if it was a V8 or a V12)
Mazda - Hydrogen RX-8 (converted, dual fuel, 13B-MSP two-rotor Renesis rotary engine)