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    Quote Originally Posted by energie_mgt View Post
    yes sir effective sya. kinabitan ko ng hho electorolyzer yong nissan pick-up ko,ganda ng resulta. Nawala yong usok,lumakas ang hatak ng makina,nawala yong ingay
    ok na sana e, sounds appealing.

    Quote Originally Posted by energie_mgt View Post
    at ang pinaka magandang resulta,yong 1 liter ng diesel ko umabot ng 27 km,laki ng tipid.kung gusto mo magpakabit email mo ko.

    teka muna...any proof of this? paano mu na-compute ang 1 liter diesel at 27 km?
    mala-prius ah or any hybrid.

    from the description above, its just a replacement/addition to the air and mixed with fuel to combust. so the amount of fuel combust every revolution is still the same or maybe decrease but not significant as 27km/L
    Last edited by aejhayl17; May 19th, 2010 at 11:37 PM.

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    haven't seen hydrogen combustion engines but i saw a lot of fuel cell cars in china and super capacitor (they charge on the bus stop, only takes few seconds to fully charge their batteries) buses too. They're trying to super catch up in green power. we're lagging behind here.

    Fuel cell
    http://i819.photobucket.com/albums/z...0/IMG_3813.jpg

    Electric bus
    http://i819.photobucket.com/albums/z...0/IMG_3441.jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by aejhayl17 View Post
    ok na sana e, sounds appealing.




    teka muna...any proof of this? paano mu na-compute ang 1 liter diesel at 27 km?
    mala-prius ah or any hybrid.

    from the description above, its just a replacement/addition to the air and mixed with fuel to combust. so the amount of fuel combust every revolution is still the same or maybe decrease but not significant as 27km/L
    May nagtanong na tsikoter member kaya ako nag react, madali lang ma-measure kung ilan km per liter ang result. upon installation of electrolyzer,ifull tank mo,then kunin mo yong initial reading sa odometer before you travel,afterward,kunin ,mo yong difference ng odometer,tapos ifull tank mo ulit,makuha mo na result. Simply lang igan,di ba?

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    Quote Originally Posted by energie_mgt View Post
    May nagtanong na tsikoter member kaya ako nag react, madali lang ma-measure kung ilan km per liter ang result. upon installation of electrolyzer,ifull tank mo,then kunin mo yong initial reading sa odometer before you travel,afterward,kunin ,mo yong difference ng odometer,tapos ifull tank mo ulit,makuha mo na result. Simply lang igan,di ba?
    i know the procedure, pero di kase kapaniwala-paniwala yan e. 27km on 1 liter for a nissan pick-up(frontier?) as you mentioned. no offense huh.

    mala-hybrid (you know how it works right? ) kase ang konsumo mo e.

    http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/hybridtech.shtml

    any proof of these "effectiveness"?

    just proof...

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    Quote Originally Posted by aejhayl17 View Post
    i know the procedure, pero di kase kapaniwala-paniwala yan e. 27km on 1 liter for a nissan pick-up(frontier?) as you mentioned. no offense huh.

    mala-hybrid (you know how it works right? ) kase ang konsumo mo e.

    http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/hybridtech.shtml

    any proof of these "effectiveness"?

    just proof...
    Actually I saw their commercial sa Auto Focus they claim to save you 26% in fuel consumption. Masubukan nga. Hybrid Hydrogen Fuel Combustion Engine ang labas mo nito parang yung sa Mazda Premacy

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    Quote Originally Posted by daimengrui View Post
    Actually I saw their commercial sa Auto Focus they claim to save you 26% in fuel consumption. Masubukan nga. Hybrid Hydrogen Fuel Combustion Engine ang labas mo nito parang yung sa Mazda Premacy
    im not yet against it.

    i just want a proof of the 27km on a liter of diesel as what sir e_m said.

    a regular nissan pickup, i assume its a frontier/Navarra, regularly/normally consumes an average of 8-12kml of diesel, i think 12kml will be the most efficient figure on a regular air-diesel combustion since it has a big 2.5L engine

    so if the Hydrogen Fuel Combustion Engine claims to save 26% in FC,

    12 x .26 = 3.12kml savings, added to FC

    with an additional 26%(3.2kml) percent from the savings claimed

    12 + 3.12 = 15.12 kml

    so dapat, expect an average 15-16kml consumption with the kit. or to overkill it, close it at 20km/l. but wont even touch 26.9kml


    but i doubt what sir e_m claims that he have a 27kml. its overkill. imho
    Last edited by aejhayl17; May 21st, 2010 at 03:21 AM.

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    would have been better if they had a bit of basic explanation of how does their system works..i.e. How does their product convert the water to HHO and what sort of lifespan of those cans...is it filled with membranes or some sort of catalyst? Also would it not have an effect on the Oxygen sensor of the car?

    For a 2.0L car *29K is not bad kung totoong 26% gain ka sa fuel consumption. In my case it would take me 3years to get an ROI.. low mileage user kse ako.

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    27km on 1 liter wow. talo pa hybrid cars nyan.. I would like to believe this pero sana post naman ng proof.

    *energie_mgt if you have installed one on your rig can you post some proof kung umaabot nga ng 27km per liter?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jubs00 View Post
    27km on 1 liter wow. talo pa hybrid cars nyan.. I would like to believe this pero sana post naman ng proof.

    *energie_mgt if you have installed one on your rig can you post some proof kung umaabot nga ng 27km per liter?
    I just thought ung 27km per liter, its not so much agreeable kasi ung brother ko nag-install din siya ng ganyan, actual its not the commercial type but the homemade version, by the way the way the HHO works with the principle of electrolysis the hydrogen supposedly goes directly to the valve...kasama na sya sa sunugan blues...well. apparently 25-30% daw ang improvement the FE...to that pinaka efficient na rin niya ung 20 kpl... (my bro's tsikot is modified KIA Pride)

    No offense bro sa 27 kpl its like you are running a motorcycle na kasi...peace...i double check mo na lang

    also, after installation hindi pa dapat mararamdaman ang effect, it would take some time din. kasi i believe marami dapat timplahin dun like the air ratio and the like... (might be maganda na siguro ung adjustments ng sayo, ung sa kuya ko kasi kapa-kapa lang hehehe homemade eh...)

    im still studying it if i'll install one in mine.

    Another thing to comment other's query if hydrogen is dangerous?, hindi naman. dangerous kasi highly combust sya, pero you dont store naman ung talagang pressurized na na Hydrogen (may high capacity na storage)...BOOM kung may leak and kung may SPARK...un lang cguro...wala namang ganun...(one piece of advice have a safe location for the device na lang). Besides dapat mas maganda pa kasi it flushes out the carbon deposits, but it would take sometime as i have said kanina, that where the best FE comes in na rin.

    sana its helps.

    -----BE SAFE

Has anyone tried Hydrogen Combustion Engines?