hard starting

[KCboy]

ask ko lang, yung pajero ko gen2, sa umaga hirap magstart, nakaka2 to 3 clicks me b4 magstart, then pag start ang itim ng usok sobra. but after nastart ko na, 1 click na yan anytime in the day until the next day. what do u think ang problem?

[lc80]

kc,
malamang heater plugs yan...

[kimpOy]

tama heater plugs nga yan.


lc80,
musta ka na long time no see ah!

[KCboy]

what heater plugs? same ba sa glow plugs yun? any idea how much abutin?

[kimpOy]

yup same lang glow plugs and heater plugs...


nakalimutan ko price sorry.

[lc80]

kimps,
ayos lang, medyo busy kaw? dalawa na pala 4X4 mo a...

[Djerms]

KC,
Medyo luma na rin heater plugs ko so what I do is wait for 10secs after the green light before starting the vehicle. Mas madaling magstart for me.

Alam ko mura lang ang glow plugs...kayangkaya mo yan!

[pajerokid]

nasa 1,200 per piece ang glow plugs.

Pag pinalitan mo tapos ganun pa rin, baka loose compression na....

[Djerms]

PK,
1,200.00 x 4pcs ba yun. or what you meant was 1,200.00 per set?

Kung 1,200.00 per pc, ang mahal pala! Baka naman may replacement nyan.

KC,
pa-check mo kaya injectors mo rin or fuel filter. Kasi remember the last time we went to maarat, medyo mausok ka na nga..hehe.

[pajerokid]

Mahal talaga. Pero replacements often last less than a year, based on other poster's experiences. Pero maling pagtitipid if you go for replacements which cost from 300-400 bucks. I mean, if hindi rin tatagal. Plus the hassle pa....

[Djerms]

Ah yun pala yung nakita ko price. For replacement glow plugs pala yun. Thanks for the tip dude. I'll go for the orig ones.

[KCboy]

dito 550 x4 yung replacement. naisip ko baka fuel filter kc last july pa huling palitr ko. pagbalik ko nex week, change oil m ,ga filters, if ganun pa din malamang glowplugs na nga, 2 yeas na kc palit ko nun replacement din. hirap talaga! pagnapagastos ka sa kotse, tuloytuloy.

[Djerms]

KC,
Try mo din gumamit ng biodiesel. Ok siya for 4d56!

[kimpOy]

Originally posted by lc80
kimps,
ayos lang, medyo busy kaw? dalawa na pala 4X4 mo a...

sagot sa OT (pasensiya na mods tagal ko kasing hindi nakausap si jan eh he..he)

nabenta kasi yung car ni misis, eh sabi ko lets go big na dahil magiging dalawa na ang anak namin. eh ayoko naman ng VAN,

at sa topic naman

go orig, less hassle, pero may replacement naman na matino tulad ng nakakabit sa akin. always one click...minsan two he..he

[mintoy]

hi kcboy,

from your post. i don't think your plugs need to be replaced. you might want to check improve your electricals for your glow plugs. especially the relay and timer relay. kung mahina ang takbo ng koryente sa glow plugs mabagal uminit sya. i had the same problem sa pajero ny company namin. if one or two glow plugs are not working you'll notice parang pumapalya and andar niya when you start. the black smoke is normal if your hardstating cuz your cylinders are full of deisel from all the cranking. once you solve that problem the black smoke will go away.

BTW. if you wand to check the glow plugs. simply unscrew them. dip the tip of the plug in light oil. attatche a wire at the top of the plug. them stick the body of the plug to the negative pole of your car battery and the wire on the positive. in less that 10 sec the oil will evaporate (smoke). that means ok ang glow plug mo. be carefull not to touch the tip after cuz mainit-na mainit yun.

mintoy

[pajerokid]

i second mintoy's suggestion. take special note on the glow plug troubleshooting, that's exactly how it's done.

[angelo606]

i had my glow plugs changed last november because of hardstarting. since then no problem naman sa pag-start ng auto., pero just recently, naghahardstart uli. tapos may white smoke na lumalabas sa exhaust after 2-3 clicks. what do you think is the problem? btw, my ride is a 2.5 paj. na manual. hope you guys can help. thanks.

[KCboy]

yung glowplugs mo na palit, orig o replacement? minsan sa akin white, minsan black smoke, kaya taka din me. palit ko glowplugs ko last year but replacement lang 550each.

[angelo606]

bro kcboy, yung glow plugs original. sa akin naman white smoke lang talaga pagnagstart, pero pagtumatakbo na wala ng smoke. i'm still wondering kung ano kaya problema? may effect kaya battery dito?

[afrasay]

check mo din fuel line. baka may leak and air could sipped in. try mong i-prime (pump) pag morning and see if hard starting pa rin. kung hindi may air ang fuel system mo.