Caltex Havoline Pro DS LE 5w40 vs Shell Helix HX8 5w40 (Both are Fully Synthetic)

**Dezaremos** · February 2nd, 2019 04:13 PM

Alin po ang mas maganda para sa Vios ?? Havoline or Helix ??

I've heard na ang Toyota Phils. are repacking Havoline oils for their CASA's .. Is the Toyota Fully Synthetic 5w40 Black Container the same as Caltex Havoline Pro DS LE 5w40 ??

**kkreuk18** · February 2nd, 2019 04:39 PM

Originally Posted by Dezaremos

Alin po ang mas maganda para sa Vios ?? Havoline or Helix ??

I've heard na ang Toyota Phils. are repacking Havoline oils for their CASA's .. Is the Toyota Fully Synthetic 5w40 Black Container the same as Caltex Havoline Pro DS LE 5w40 ??

Akala ko amalie ang gamit ng toyota.

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**oj88** · February 2nd, 2019 04:41 PM

Probably not.

The Toyota FS 5W40 is API SN/CF while the Caltex ProDS LE 5W40 is API SN.

In other words, the Toyota 5W40 oil is suitable for both Diesel and Gasoline engines (up to CF and SN classifications, respectively) while the Caltex 5W40 (SN) is for Gasoline engines only.

By comparison, the Shell HX8 5W40 is more similar to the Toyota 5W40 as they're both API SN/CF.

**Egan101** · February 2nd, 2019 08:44 PM

Kung ano mas mura, puwede naman either for the Vios.

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**StockEngine** · February 2nd, 2019 10:34 PM

Originally Posted by Egan101

Kung ano mas mura, puwede naman either for the Vios.

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agree so many 300ish fs oil nowadays

**shelu** · February 4th, 2019 08:22 AM

Originally Posted by oj88

Probably not.

The Toyota FS 5W40 is API SN/CF while the Caltex ProDS LE 5W40 is API SN.

In other words, the Toyota 5W40 oil is suitable for both Diesel and Gasoline engines (up to CF and SN classifications, respectively) while the Caltex 5W40 (SN) is for Gasoline engines only.

By comparison, the Shell HX8 5W40 is more similar to the Toyota 5W40 as they're both API SN/CF.

while trying to learn about shell helix x7, i came across the api.org site, as reflected in their advisory, CF oil classification is obsolete. sad thing is, i just had my oil changed with shell helix FS. mahal pa naman. buti pa nag stick nalang ako sa delo 400, mas maganda pa pala at mas mura.

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**oj88** · February 4th, 2019 08:57 AM

Yes. That’s why I stopped using the Toyota FS 5W40 and switched to Zic X7 10W40 Diesel. The latter is at least API CI-4 and costs a fraction of the Toyota FS.