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    Oil Base Stocks

    Oil base stocks are divided into five general categories, as defined by the American Petroleum Institute (API):
    Group I - Conventional - Mineral oil derived from crude oil
    Group II - Hydroprocessed - Highly refined mineral oil
    Group III – Severe hydroprocessed
    Group IV – Polyalphaolefins (PAO)
    Group V - Other base stocks not included in Group I, II, III, or IV (e.g. ester-based oil )

    Kabilang sa group III to V ang synthetic..kayo na po ang bahalang mag-aral kasi ako kuntento na ko sa ginagamit kong fully synthetic oil kung ano iyon check niyo na lang ang facebook fanpage nila or website; www.s-oil.com.ph /facebook.com/s-oil phillippines.

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    question po, kung pangit or hindi compatible yung engine oil na nailagay sa makina, mararamdaman ba instantly ang effect ito?

    after ng 10k pms kasi ng pick up ko (changed oil and oil filter, cleaned air filter element, nothing else), ang laki ng binaba ng performance, sa feeling gauge lang, pero i am driving only this pick up so i have a strong feel of how it runs before the change oil and ang tamlay manakbo after the pms.
    hindi naman mausok.

    my unit: 2013 2.2 ranger xlt m/t
    engine oil they (casa) used: 8 liters castrol 5w-30 (daw), came from a drum daw since hinihingi ko yung container, sabi sa drum daw galing.

    thanks...

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    Quote Originally Posted by taraki17a View Post
    question po, kung pangit or hindi compatible yung engine oil na nailagay sa makina, mararamdaman ba instantly ang effect ito?

    after ng 10k pms kasi ng pick up ko (changed oil and oil filter, cleaned air filter element, nothing else), ang laki ng binaba ng performance, sa feeling gauge lang, pero i am driving only this pick up so i have a strong feel of how it runs before the change oil and ang tamlay manakbo after the pms.
    hindi naman mausok.

    my unit: 2013 2.2 ranger xlt m/t
    engine oil they (casa) used: 8 liters castrol 5w-30 (daw), came from a drum daw since hinihingi ko yung container, sabi sa drum daw galing.

    thanks...
    Could be they used mineral oil, there's a big difference in performance when you change from full synthetic to mineral oil.

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    Quote Originally Posted by taraki17a View Post
    question po, kung pangit or hindi compatible yung engine oil na nailagay sa makina, mararamdaman ba instantly ang effect ito?

    after ng 10k pms kasi ng pick up ko (changed oil and oil filter, cleaned air filter element, nothing else), ang laki ng binaba ng performance, sa feeling gauge lang, pero i am driving only this pick up so i have a strong feel of how it runs before the change oil and ang tamlay manakbo after the pms.
    hindi naman mausok.

    my unit: 2013 2.2 ranger xlt m/t
    engine oil they (casa) used: 8 liters castrol 5w-30 (daw), came from a drum daw since hinihingi ko yung container, sabi sa drum daw galing.

    thanks...
    hello sir, 5w-30 is malabnaw na nga for a diesel engine, dapat mas magaan ang pakiramdam ng makina mo kung wala naman ibang problema. As far as I know, I also have a diesel engine SUV, originally from casa oil na 15w-50, i shifted to 15w-40 which is also recommended from the car's manual, ramdam agad yung pino ng andar ng makina and very smooth ang acceleration and pulling power. Check mo na lang yung car's manual mo and maybe have it checked by your casa dealer....JM2C

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    Quote Originally Posted by falken View Post
    Could be they used mineral oil, there's a big difference in performance when you change from full synthetic to mineral oil.

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    i see, i will call them tomorrow to again verify what kind of 'castrol 5w30' they used. they charged me 500 per liter. thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    went to true value ATC yesterday and looked around for synthetic oils...how would you know kung totoong synthetic oil? I mean iba-iba nakasulat eh, meron 100% synthetic, yun iba fully synthetic, yun iba naman synthetic lang nakasulat...

    so among those na nabanggit ko ano yun totoong synthetic dyan? kasi I assumed na dapat 100% synthetic ang "real" synthetic...tama ba ako?
    for sure the most expensive will likely lead you to the right direction

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    #27
    Quote Originally Posted by rmsoriano View Post
    hello sir, 5w-30 is malabnaw na nga for a diesel engine, dapat mas magaan ang pakiramdam ng makina mo kung wala naman ibang problema. As far as I know, I also have a diesel engine SUV, originally from casa oil na 15w-50, i shifted to 15w-40 which is also recommended from the car's manual, ramdam agad yung pino ng andar ng makina and very smooth ang acceleration and pulling power. Check mo na lang yung car's manual mo and maybe have it checked by your casa dealer....JM2C
    ito nakalagay sa owner's manual ng unit ko...

    * Initial fill is European oil WSS-M2C-913-C in all plants. For high sulphur markets change
    engine oil at first service interval to WSS-M2C-921-A.
    Your engine has been designed to be used with Castrol and Ford Engine Oil, which gives
    a fuel economy benefit whilst maintaining the durability of your engine.
    Engine oil - Diesel (for markets with low sulphur content less than 350 ppm): If
    you are unable to find an oil that meets the specification defined by WSS-M2C913-C,
    you must use SAE 5W-30 (preferred), SAE 5W-40 or SAE 10W-40 that meets the
    specification defined by either ACEA A5/B5 (preferred) or ACEA A3/B3.
    **
    Engine oil - Diesel (for markets with high sulphur content greater than 350 ppm):
    If you are unable to find an oil that meets the specification defined by WSS-M2C921-A,
    you must use SAE 10W-30 (preferred), SAE 5W-40 or SAE 10W-40 that meets the
    specification defined by either ACEA E5-99 or API CH-4 or higher.

    kung low sulphur content ang diesel na gagamitin, preferred ang 5w30,
    kung high sulphur content and diesel na gagamitin, preferred and 10w30...

    i guess they should used a 10w30 engine oil? at dapat full synthetic since change oil interval is every 10kms...

    baka nga mineral oil nilagay? kaya pangit andar ng makina ko.

    btw, i checked the oil dipstick and oil is a little above max level (cold engine / leveled parking), kung ibase natin dito nasubrahan pala nila oil kahit 8 liters lang nilagay (8.6 liters as per manual), double check ko level later. hopefully my problem is just overfilled engine oil.

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    confirmed, it was too much engine oil. hindi dahil sobra ang refill, kundi dahil kulang ang pagdrain sa initial oil... we had to drain around 1.3 liters of the oil to put the engine oil level below the max mark of the dipstick... new oil was already black in color after just around 150km.

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    #29
    focus on the viscosity rating like API & SAE rather than the oil type



    for insightful understanding of SAE multigrade rating go to bizol.com then click the "viscosity comparison" to see the difference with the different viscosity ratings
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    #30
    Ung Kixx RV Turbo and Zic RV 100% FS oil ba?

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