Great Wall Cars Philippines

**marg** · March 1st, 2011 04:35 PM

Originally Posted by RadioKnight

In terms of performance, it is really slow and weak. It was almost unable to get up the ramp from the Ayala mall basement parking. I had to turn the a/c off and hold my breath (not sure if that helped). According to a friend riding with me, the girls in a 90s model Pajero behind us were laughing at us. Hehe Fun.

I can tell that reliability is also bad. It was still a pretty new car but it would already rattle like a poorly serviced 15 year old corolla.**

Malayo pa China cars in terms of Reliability and Durability

**weisshorn** · March 1st, 2011 05:01 PM

a month ago may nakausap ako sa isang parking lot na ang drive ay Hover 4x2. Out of curiosity kinumusta ko how is the Hover, ang sagot "ok lang". hindi ko na inusisa kung gaano ka ok ang ok lang. Sa parte ng FC naman ang sabi comparable sa isuzu crosswind ang consumo. Don't know how true pero ang makina ay 2.8L CRDi (bosch system) with 95 HP output eh mataas ng kunti lang keysa Isuzu 4ja1 which is conventional diesel injection system. Ibig sabihin ang FC ay 12-14 km/L diesel. I believe the guy is telling the truth.

Ano sa opinion nyo mga brother?

**Ry_Tower** · March 1st, 2011 05:37 PM

Originally Posted by eljo3025

Chery offered 5-year warranties too but I still don't see anymore Coca-Cola's Chery QQ or Z-plate Chery QQs I noticed only N-plate Chery QQs running. It means na kahit may warranty kung talagang sira na yung kotse, sira na. Madaming exclusions ang warranty lalo na kung may wear and tear ang piyesa. Kung hindi i-hohonor ng dealership sira pa din ang kotse mo. 5-years man ang warranty. - just to clarify, i did not mean na just because my 5-year warranty ay ok na. Again, time will tell. My point is that it seems that ginagaya nila yung Hyundai. Again, time will tell if ok nga sila or hindi.

To germs naman, may planta man o wala, naka assemble man o hindi, kung wala naman bibili magsasara din yan.

Look at BMW plant by Columbian during the 90s o Mercedes Benz during 60 and 70s. German Cars na yan nagsara pa, paano pa kaya ang Chinese brand na hindi naman strong ang presence.

- mahirap magsalita ng tapos. Kung yung kia pride nga pinagtatawanan ngaun, look at them now. Marami din chinese cmpany ang succesful na. Lenovo is one, Huawei din. Again, mahirap magsalita ng tapos but of course anyone can express their opinion.

**Ry_Tower** · March 1st, 2011 05:42 PM

Originally Posted by weisshorn

a month ago may nakausap ako sa isang parking lot na ang drive ay Hover 4x2. Out of curiosity kinumusta ko how is the Hover, ang sagot "ok lang". hindi ko na inusisa kung gaano ka ok ang ok lang. Sa parte ng FC naman ang sabi comparable sa isuzu crosswind ang consumo. Don't know how true pero ang makina ay 2.8L CRDi (bosch system) with 95 HP output eh mataas ng kunti lang keysa Isuzu 4ja1 which is conventional diesel injection system. Ibig sabihin ang FC ay 12-14 km/L diesel. I believe the guy is telling the truth.

Ano sa opinion nyo mga brother?

- siguro sir kung meron pang ibang testimony para mas credible.

Pero yug 95HP para sa CRDi ay mababa for a 2.8 engine. 4m40 nga na mechanical fuel pump 125hp na. 140 yung EFI.

But since mababa hp rating niya kaya pwedeng matipid nga. But its difficult to tell nga lang

**ecozone** · March 1st, 2011 06:47 PM

^ mababa pa ba 95 hp? stock engine specs for 2.8 ltr 4JB1 engine is 52.2 kw or 70 hp according to this link >

http://salika.com/german/images/Sample06EnGe.pdf

**Ry_Tower** · March 1st, 2011 07:02 PM

Originally Posted by ecozone

^ mababa pa ba 95 hp? stock engine specs for 2.8 ltr 4JB1 engine is 52.2 kw or 70 hp according to this link >

http://salika.com/german/images/Sample06EnGe.pdf

Relative to 4m40 and considering na CRDi siya as claimed above, IMO mababa nga siya.

**ecozone** · March 1st, 2011 07:17 PM

Originally Posted by Ry_Tower

Relative to 4m40 and considering na CRDi siya as claimed above, IMO mababa nga siya.

ah ok, baka naman sa max torque bumawi like 225nm * 1600-2000 rpm or more..

just basing on other china cars na gumagamit ng 4JB1 crdi engine.

**umi001** · March 1st, 2011 11:54 PM

Originally Posted by weisshorn

a month ago may nakausap ako sa isang parking lot na ang drive ay Hover 4x2. Out of curiosity kinumusta ko how is the Hover, ang sagot "ok lang". hindi ko na inusisa kung gaano ka ok ang ok lang. Sa parte ng FC naman ang sabi comparable sa isuzu crosswind ang consumo. Don't know how true pero ang makina ay 2.8L CRDi (bosch system) with 95 HP output eh mataas ng kunti lang keysa Isuzu 4ja1 which is conventional diesel injection system. Ibig sabihin ang FC ay 12-14 km/L diesel. I believe the guy is telling the truth.

Ano sa opinion nyo mga brother?

95hp for a 2.8L CRDI? That's rather low...

**blue_gambit** · March 2nd, 2011 01:05 AM

Malamang isuzu 4jb1-t 2.8 turbo makina nila. Given na yung chassis design looks like it came from d-max or fuego chassis the engine most certainly will fit the bill with little mods.

I doubt the 4m40 will be used para kasing ang laki ng block ng Mitsu, kaya modified pa yung engine support unlike kung isuzu engine and chassis swak agadd. kopyahin lang ibang parts ok na. Tsaka ang 4m40 was never fitted with direct injection unlike 4JB1.

Some things to note: 4M40 is SOHC while 4JB1 is OHV in design. which is which?

The difference will be the grade in metal used vs. the isuzu japan...