Time to ditch Chevrolet

**ice15** · March 7th, 2020 05:18 PM

Originally Posted by AG4

Same engine in two different gen cars won't guarantee every thing in the engine bay is identical.

are you serious?

there's a reason I used the 2E as an example... It's the engine used by the Corolla XL and XE for 3 generations (in PH)

only difference is that the E90 has an ignition coil... the E100 and E110 had an electronic ignition system.

**ice15** · March 7th, 2020 05:27 PM

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**LOLZ** · March 7th, 2020 06:56 PM

Originally Posted by ice15

are you serious?

there's a reason I used the 2E as an example... It's the engine used by the Corolla XL and XE for 3 generations (in PH)

only difference is that the E90 has an ignition coil... the E100 and E110 had an electronic ignition system.

The E90 with the 2E engine soldiered on until 2006 in SA as a hatchback

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**AG4** · March 8th, 2020 05:01 AM

Originally Posted by ice15

are you serious?

Anyway, this is getting way off-topic. We are talking about the Colorado and Trailblazer which was sold in the Asia-Pacific region for 8-long years and for a time was GM's best seller.

Remember a lot of the spare parts have already been manufactured during the run of the vehicle (this applies pretty much for any mass-produced vehicle), production of spare parts by suppliers usually continue beyond the car's run but in smaller batches.

This is also the reason why my brother can still buy OEM GM parts for his Optra which sold in much lower numbers.

**tidus1203** · March 10th, 2020 03:07 PM

Originally Posted by ice15

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The writing is on the wall na. Here comes the Chinese...

**thearsenal1205** · March 20th, 2020 10:13 AM

Originally Posted by tidus1203

The writing is on the wall na. Here comes the Chinese...

Chinese made Chevrolets are coming...

**17Sphynx17** · March 20th, 2020 10:26 AM

Originally Posted by thearsenal1205

Chinese made Chevrolets are coming...

Are the China made Chevrolets possibly sharing any major parts with the ASEAN made Chevrolets from Thailand?

I just know their China made Trailblazer is a CUV and not a Ladder Frame SUV if I'm not mistaken (and no diesel).

If it does come from China, is the China Trade Agreement giving better/worse perks than Thailand Trade Agreement?

EDIT: I also know there is current talk of Thailand's unfair Trade practices with Philippines so they might impose higher taxes in the "near future" to penalize Thailand. This is still not finalized as I think there is also an issue if Philippines does this as Thailand may protest (or it is against some international trade rule)

**thearsenal1205** · March 20th, 2020 11:42 AM

Originally Posted by 17Sphynx17

Are the China made Chevrolets possibly sharing any major parts with the ASEAN made Chevrolets from Thailand?

I just know their China made Trailblazer is a CUV and not a Ladder Frame SUV if I'm not mistaken (and no diesel).

If it does come from China, is the China Trade Agreement giving better/worse perks than Thailand Trade Agreement?

EDIT: I also know there is current talk of Thailand's unfair Trade practices with Philippines so they might impose higher taxes in the "near future" to penalize Thailand. This is still not finalized as I think there is also an issue if Philippines does this as Thailand may protest (or it is against some international trade rule)

Nope. because they only produces unibody vehicles unlike the Trailblazer/Colorado built in Thailand. Unless GM moves the Thailand assembly/tooling to SAIC-GM plant in china to produce the Colorado and the body on frame Trailblazer.

Unfair pala si thailand mag trade sa atin? Pinataas ang tax exports nila?

**17Sphynx17** · March 20th, 2020 11:51 AM

Originally Posted by thearsenal1205

Nope. because they only produces unibody vehicles unlike the Trailblazer/Colorado built in Thailand. Unless GM moves the Thailand assembly/tooling to SAIC-GM plant in china to produce the Colorado and the body on frame Trailblazer.

Unfair pala si thailand mag trade sa atin? Pinataas ang tax exports nila?

I can't quite remember about what specific item from Thailand (i think cigarettes or liquor ata). And dahil duon natatalo local industry natin since may tax exemption status sila due to the trade agreement. Kaya gusto gumanti ng Philippines by adding taxes (or removing exemptions) to vehicles from Thailand (specifically pickup and SUV class I think)

If China made models are non pickup/non SUV, then TCCCI might just shift the whole product line (maybe?) For parts, can the Trailblazer use some isuzu parts or is it strictly chassis/frame that it shared with the DMAX? But it is a completely uphill battle for the brand of Chevrolet as a whole as they are unable to release a compelling product for the mass market in multiple markets. Honestly don't know whether shifting to China made models will help as Volkswagen PH hasn't gained traction with that approach.

EDIT: Found it. Cigarettes sigurado.
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**LOLZ** · March 20th, 2020 11:54 AM

Originally Posted by thearsenal1205

Nope. because they only produces unibody vehicles unlike the Trailblazer/Colorado built in Thailand. Unless GM moves the Thailand assembly/tooling to SAIC-GM plant in china to produce the Colorado and the body on frame Trailblazer.

Unfair pala si thailand mag trade sa atin? Pinataas ang tax exports nila?

its more likely they'll just increase Brazil's production of the Colorado/Trailblazer for export than retool china's SAIC plant for a new model they arent selling in the chinese model