Chevrolet Aveo Sedan

[niky]

Only pros I can think of is that service at Gm outlets right now is pretty good (they've overhauled recently) and they offer good financing deals and service promos.

Oh, and the full set of safety equipment and features.

Cons? Outdated (really ooooold) construction, outdated engines, not really any better than the competition. At 699k, a bit pricey... considering you can get a Sentra for that much, or a Corolla for not much more.

The new 1.4 liter engine is supposedly more efficient than the terribly 1.5 in the older model, but you can get better engines (and transmissions) in the base model Honda City or Toyota Vios... for less money, to boot. Sure, there's less safety kit, but those two cars have a stiffer crash structure than the Aveo... in fact, even the korean cars on the market have better crash ratings.

It's your money, though... buy it for the kit, the fuel economy and ABS, yes... but if safety is part of your decision process, safety is more than just the number of airbags.
It's your money, though.

[niky]

Only pros I can think of is that service at Gm outlets right now is pretty good (they've overhauled recently) and they offer good financing deals and service promos.

Oh, and the full set of safety equipment and features.

Cons? Outdated (really ooooold) construction, outdated engines, not really any better than the competition. At 699k, a bit pricey... considering you can get a Sentra for that much, or a Corolla for not much more.

The new 1.4 liter engine is supposedly more efficient than the terrible 1.5 in the older model, but you can get better engines (and transmissions) in the base model Honda City or Toyota Vios... for less money, to boot. Sure, there's less safety kit, but those two cars have a stiffer crash structure than the Aveo... in fact, even the korean cars on the market have better crash ratings.

It's your money, though... buy it for the kit, the fuel economy and ABS, yes... but if safety is part of your decision process, safety is more than just the number of airbags.

It's your money, though. The Aveo is good-looking and comfortable, but IMHO, it's just nowhere near the best cars in its class.

[Dinobots]

tnx for the feedback!

[AG4]

in fact, even the korean cars on the market have better crash ratings.

..only when they have airbags, but since the RP spec Kia Rio and Hyundai Accent have no airbags, they'll probably get much lower crash ratings.

Cons? Outdated (really ooooold) construction, outdated engines, not really any better than the competition. At 699k, a bit pricey... considering you can get a Sentra for that much

The Sentra sold here is also outdated, the current model was first released in Japan back in 2000 as the Bluebird Sylphy.

Aside from the 2008 Aveo sedan, another alternative to the usual Japanese sub-compact is the old-style Lancer (updated with a 1-piece grill).

I read that it has Dual-Airbags, all-power features and 15 inch alloys.
Price list at Mitsubishi's site isn't updated, but i found this August Price List online: http://www.auto-searchphilippines.co...PriceList.html
1.6 GLX M/T: P685K
1.6 GLS CVT: P725K
...with P50K discount?

Just like in Japan, the old style model is still being sold as a low end model.

[niky]

When talking about EuroNCAP scores, airbags are only half of the equation. Crash structure is the other half. Which is why, even with revised airbag software, the Nissan Navara still scores lower than a Kia Rio.

Airbags are a supplementary system that help prevent injury, but 90% of your safety comes from the seatbelts and the structural integrity of the vehicle. That's why racing cars don't have airbags. Not because of cost savings... face it... with just the steering wheel on an F1 costing as much as a luxury car, saving on the price of one airbag is ironic... but because a properly belted and secured driver has all the safety he needs.

The lower score of the Aveo compared to the Rio (1 star versus 4 stars) is partially because steering column movement makes the driver's airbag useless, and because the cabin deformation is extreme. The Kia Rio suffers much less cabin deformation.

As a result, airbags or not, as long as you're properly belted into a Kia Rio, your crash survivability is still much higher than in a Chevrolet Aveo... airbags or not.

[niky]

When talking about EuroNCAP scores, airbags are only half of the equation. Crash structure is the other half. Which is why, even with revised airbag software, the Nissan Navara still scores lower than a Kia Rio.

Airbags are a supplementary system that help prevent injury, but 90% of your safety comes from the seatbelts and the structural integrity of the vehicle. That's why racing cars don't have airbags. Not because of cost savings... face it... with just the steering wheel on an F1 costing as much as a luxury car, saving on the price of one airbag is ironic... but because a properly belted and secured driver has all the safety he needs.

The lower score of the Aveo compared to the Rio (1 star versus 4 stars) is partially because steering column movement makes the driver's airbag useless, and because the cabin deformation is extreme. The Kia Rio suffers much less cabin deformation.

As a result, airbags or not, as long as you're properly belted into a Kia Rio, your crash survivability is still much higher than in a Chevrolet Aveo... airbags or not.