Desalination Plant is it viable for the P.I.

[4JGtootsie]

rdecruze,

Naisip ko dati baka pwedeng gawin dam ang Mt Pinatubo na parang Caliraya.
What happened to Caliraya, hindi ba siya pwedeng source of water.

[rdecruze]

rdecruze,

Naisip ko dati baka pwedeng gawin dam ang Mt Pinatubo na parang Caliraya.
What happened to Caliraya, hindi ba siya pwedeng source of water.

Caliraya is actually a reservoir na. Ito ang catchment ng small rivers from north Cavinti jungles. The old Caliraya power plant is the operating machine of this dam or reservoir. If you heard the latest power plant being put up in Caliraya ito yung pump the water from Laguna de Bay up to Caliraya reservoir then runs back to pipes to produce power...sounds weird di ba?

Yes Pinatubo can be a good reservoir but there is no source of water or river around..just plain rain water trap around the mountains..Mt Pinatubo.

[rdecruze]

I don't think we need desalination plant kasi mababaw lang ang water table sa bansa. Which means we have abundant source of water. Mag baon ka lang ng isang tubo may tubig na..sa probinsya. Di nga lang drinking water. Treatment plant ang kailangan after tapping water underground. All provinces!! Other countries have desalination plant kasi they do not have other sources of water.

[ghosthunter]

rdecruze,

Naisip ko dati baka pwedeng gawin dam ang Mt Pinatubo na parang Caliraya.
What happened to Caliraya, hindi ba siya pwedeng source of water.

nice idea... turning an active volcano into a water storage facility, not!

First thing, mt pinatubo is still active. Second, volcanic gasses dissolving in water will result in sulfuric acid and other nasties dissolved in the water making it toxic to life.

[4JGtootsie]

nice idea... turning an active volcano into a water storage facility, not!

First thing, mt pinatubo is still active. Second, volcanic gasses dissolving in water will result in sulfuric acid and other nasties dissolved in the water making it toxic to life.

I know that! in fact mas active pa ang Taal. Volcanoes can be dormant for hundreds or thousands of years. Geothermal plants thrive in these environments and they dont mind the investment vis a vis the risk. Look what happened to Pompei. Sa Tagaytay may mga subdivisions, golf course, amusement park, casino may SM pa.

A good question is can we treat the water from Mt Pinatubo for farm use.
Marami rami rin sulfuric acid or maybe diamonds that we can find use for.

[ghosthunter]

I know that! in fact mas active pa ang Taal. Volcanoes can be dormant for hundreds or thousands of years. Geothermal plants thrive in these environments and they dont mind the investment vis a vis the risk. Look what happened to Pompei.

The people living in Pompei did not know Mt. Vesuvius was actually a volcano because there was no eruption in living memory for generations.

Sa Tagaytay may mga subdivisions, golf course, amusement park, casino may SM pa.

Taal Volcano is not just the tiny island in the middle of the lake, it's the entire rim of Tagaytay, etc that surrounds Taal Lake.

A good question is can we treat the water from Mt Pinatubo for farm use.

Water treatment for Mt Pinatubo water will add cost. Using raw Mt.Pinatubo water will just poison the land.

Marami rami rin sulfuric acid ....

Industrial production of sulfuric acid is cheaper than shipping and processing Mt. Pinatubo water. For one, you will need to reduce the volume of the water to increase the concentration of the acid to more useful levels. That might be in the range of 1,000 or even 10,000 liters to produce one liter of industrial grade sulfuric acid.

And that doesn't even includes the process to remove the other dissolved minerals in the water.

or maybe diamonds that we can find use for.

You want to mine an active volcano. Not to mention volcanic rock, which is one of the hardest rocks you can find. What bright idea.

[4JGtootsie]

The people living in Pompei did not know Mt. Vesuvius was actually a volcano because there was no eruption in living memory for generations.

Meron pa bang settlement at the foot of Mt. Vesuvius now?

Taal Volcano is not just the tiny island in the middle of the lake, it's the entire rim of Tagaytay, etc that surrounds Taal Lake.

I know that! And the people living there for many years knows that. Why are they still living and investing there?

Water treatment for Mt Pinatubo water will add cost. Using raw Mt.Pinatubo water will just poison the land.

This is what I needed to know.

Industrial production of sulfuric acid is cheaper than shipping and processing Mt. Pinatubo water. For one, you will need to reduce the volume of the water to increase the concentration of the acid to more useful levels. That might be in the range of 1,000 or even 10,000 liters to produce one liter of industrial grade sulfuric acid.

And that doesn't even includes the process to remove the other dissolved minerals in the water.

And this also.

You want to mine an active volcano. Not to mention volcanic rock, which is one of the hardest rocks you can find. What bright idea.

Who said mining Mt. Pinatubo? Maraming sulfuric acid ang tubig or maybe diamonds is what i said.

Ghost peace naman tayo diba. Hope you understand that i am asking questions on topics that I dont fully understand.

[ghosthunter]

Meron pa bang settlement at the foot of Mt. Vesuvius now?

yes. there is a modern city at the foot of the volcano.

I know that! And the people living there for many years knows that. Why are they still living and investing there?

Typical pinoy mentality. If it didn't happen yesterday, it won't happen tomorrow. If tragedy strikes, they will all start pointing fingers on who is responsible for this "tragedy". The same reason why people still live in the flood prone areas of the metro.

Who said mining Mt. Pinatubo? Maraming sulfuric acid ang tubig or maybe diamonds is what i said.

Exactly. you said diamonds. Extracting diamonds from volcanic rock?

Ghost peace naman tayo diba. Hope you understand that i am asking questions on topics that I dont fully understand.

No problem. If I came down a bit too "hard", that is just me. Nothing personal involved. Sometimes I assume that people might prefer to research before asking questions so one can avoid asking "the obvious" things.

[4JGtootsie]

I understand. I do research and watch discovery channel a lot like you do.
I want to hear the opinion of Filipinos who has first hand experience or suggestions on the topic of H20 of the largest scale. The reason I brought up Mt Pinatubo is to gather information on its viablity. Like rdecruze mentioned Central Luzon has not much mountains to create dams. So much so that any natural catch basin which is elevated is a good reserviour.

About the diamonds its panning/filtering the water from Mt. Pinatubo.

What do you think about Laguna de Bay as source of fresh water?

[mazdamazda]

What do you think about Laguna de Bay as source of fresh water?

Errr... Laguna de Bay is already being as such (for agriculture, factories, etc.)

But not as a source of household water though since it is also a recipient of discharged waste water.