Garmins GPS Vs A.V.T Gps

[rensom]

Mt fren bought A.V.T gps worth 18,995...noong instal namin ok at accurate talaga at wlang off-road... pati yung map... ayos na ayos gawa kz ng accumap.. ang problema di ko lang alam hanggang kailan tatagal yung unit na yon...no name at di syang kilala. Pero ang Garmins.... alam naman natin kung gaanong kaganda ang unit na yon ...pero ang map? YAN ANG TANONG...... ACCURATE BA? OK YUNG gps tiyak na accurate pero nakapatong ba talaga sa kalye sasakyan mno? o sa gilid ng kalye?.... Pwde bang ma-hack yung map ng AVT pra magamit sa garmins?..... kung kyo........ano ang pipiliin niyo?

[jcdulog]

Mt fren bought A.V.T gps worth 18,995...noong instal namin ok at accurate talaga at wlang off-road... pati yung map... ayos na ayos gawa kz ng accumap.. ang problema di ko lang alam hanggang kailan tatagal yung unit na yon...no name at di syang kilala. Pero ang Garmins.... alam naman natin kung gaanong kaganda ang unit na yon ...pero ang map? YAN ANG TANONG...... ACCURATE BA? OK YUNG gps tiyak na accurate pero nakapatong ba talaga sa kalye sasakyan mno? o sa gilid ng kalye?.... Pwde bang ma-hack yung map ng AVT pra magamit sa garmins?..... kung kyo........ano ang pipiliin niyo?

no name ba ang AVT? as far as i know eto yung gps na ino-offer ng Honda Casa's. My subwoofer is AVT as well as my headunit.

[ferrarifan]

Mt fren bought A.V.T gps worth 18,995...noong instal namin ok at accurate talaga at wlang off-road... pati yung map... ayos na ayos gawa kz ng accumap.. ang problema di ko lang alam hanggang kailan tatagal yung unit na yon...no name at di syang kilala. Pero ang Garmins.... alam naman natin kung gaanong kaganda ang unit na yon ...pero ang map? YAN ANG TANONG...... ACCURATE BA? OK YUNG gps tiyak na accurate pero nakapatong ba talaga sa kalye sasakyan mno? o sa gilid ng kalye?.... Pwde bang ma-hack yung map ng AVT pra magamit sa garmins?..... kung kyo........ano ang pipiliin niyo?

Garmin is definitely a world leader in navigation systems. And you'll be surprised to know that the best Philippine gps map today is Garmin compatible...courtesy of roadguide.ph....http://roadguide.ph/

[liv]

Garmin is definitely a world leader in navigation systems. And you'll be surprised to know that the best Philippine gps map today is Garmin compatible...courtesy of roadguide.ph....http://roadguide.ph/

+1.. Roadguide.ph map... the best Philippine map there is.

[woohoo]

Roadguide.ph Philippines Map is great, it has lots of POI's, but it still has no SEARCH Capability, AFAIK.

OSM Philippines Map now has preliminary Search Capability, *but* in my experience, searching only works in mapsource. I dunno about other GPS units, but searching on this OSM map (Oct. 2009 pre-release version) doesn't work on my Nuvi 255W.

Great to see roadguide's map has roads in Floridablanca, whereas OSM only has the National Road mapped in that portion.

[oj88]

^ No search capability? What do you mean? I can search any street, city, town, or POI.

[ferrarifan]

Roadguide.ph Philippines Map is great, it has lots of POI's, but it still has no SEARCH Capability, AFAIK.

OSM Philippines Map now has preliminary Search Capability, *but* in my experience, searching only works in mapsource. I dunno about other GPS units, but searching on this OSM map (Oct. 2009 pre-release version) doesn't work on my Nuvi 255W.

Great to see roadguide's map has roads in Floridablanca, whereas OSM only has the National Road mapped in that portion.

You are very funny. Obviously you don't have the contributor's map of roadguide.ph. How dare you say it is doesn't have search capability when in fact it has the feature ever since it was created. Please don't post misleading information when you don't have the full knowledge of what you're talking about.

And while you're at it, would you care to download the 1.09 demo map and compare it with your OSM map. You'll be surprised to see that it's not only in Pampanga that roadguide.ph's map has more details. And that is a fact. Accurate as it can be.

[cktlcmd]

You are very funny. Obviously you don't have the contributor's map of roadguide.ph. How dare you say it is doesn't have search capability when in fact it has the feature ever since it was created. Please don't post misleading information when you don't have the full knowledge of what you're talking about.

And while you're at it, would you care to download the 1.09 demo map and compare it with your OSM map. You'll be surprised to see that it's not only in Pampanga that roadguide.ph's map has more details. And that is a fact. Accurate as it can be.

Does the map allow you to search exact addresses just like TomTom and iGO in the States? I too am looking for a nice GPS unit to use here in the Philippines.

[ferrarifan]

Does the map allow you to search exact addresses just like TomTom and iGO in the States? I too am looking for a nice GPS unit to use here in the Philippines.

Search up to street name only (no house number search as numbering here in the PI is disorganized, and not everything is numbered anyway). If you plan to use one here, buy Garmin model as PI is Garmin country in terms of map availability.

[oj88]

Does the map allow you to search exact addresses just like TomTom and iGO in the States? I too am looking for a nice GPS unit to use here in the Philippines.

On Garmins, you can search by Exact Address, POI, Intersections, Extras, Cities, Home, and Long./Lat. But as far as exact address searches, the map currently isn't that good yet (but we're getting there). There are some exceptions but generally, most POIs doesn't have a House or Building Number associated with it yet. The house/building numbering here in the Philippines is so convoluted that it may take a while before it can be supported in the future. Remember that roadguide.ph is just a group of contributors like you and me. We don't have high-tech mapping hardware/software like TomTom or Garmin does in the US. In the meantime, you can just search for the street or a POI nearest your destination and navigate to it.

AVT does not have support for exact address look-up. The only available option for destination search is Intersection, Home, POI, Nearby POI, and Long./Lat.

Having both AVT and Garmin, I'd say that AVT still has a very long way catching up. The "acclaimed" Accu-Map map software that they're using is just pure hype, IMHO. For instance, the POI database is nowhere near roadguide's. For example, try searching for a "Ministop" in Makati with AVT/Accu-Map and it can only give one (1) result. Bleh

The same search on a Garmin/Roadguide.ph GPS yields twenty-one (21) results... just within a 1 KM radius. :D Fifity-two (52) results in a 5 KM radius.

[wsa 400]

Garmin is still better. Have an old Garmin Nuvi unit (260W) with downloaded maps of the Philippines. Maps are fairly accurate. Not too impressed with the AVT DVD with navigation of my friend when he did a demo with his unit installed in a Honda City. It still needs some improvements.

[woohoo]

You are very funny. Obviously you don't have the contributor's map of roadguide.ph. How dare you say it is doesn't have search capability when in fact it has the feature ever since it was created. Please don't post misleading information when you don't have the full knowledge of what you're talking about.

And while you're at it, would you care to download the 1.09 demo map and compare it with your OSM map. You'll be surprised to see that it's not only in Pampanga that roadguide.ph's map has more details. And that is a fact. Accurate as it can be.

I did. I used Mapsource to Find Places, but the menu item is disabled/dimmed. Doesn't that mean that the demo map doesn't have Address Search capability? Isn't the demo map used to create the required gmapsupp.img to be used on GPS units with Unlock Code? Or does jan send each contributor a personalized gmapsupp.img?

^ No search capability? What do you mean? I can search any street, city, town, or POI.

That's great! Both on Mapsource and on your Nuvi? I can't even use Find Places in Mapsource on the 1.09 demo map. I wonder why? Do I need to uninstall the previous version? My roadguide gmapsupp.img is 31,260,672 bytes in size. How about yours?

I tried POI searching, and yes, it works on the Nuvi. But using Address Search on my Nuvi 255W, I can't find any street! How do you do it on your Nuvi? This is how I do it:

Where to? -> Address -> (Select City in: ) Seach All ->

<Enter House Number> (I just press Done, or I erase the prompt and press DONE ->

<Enter Street> (I type the street name, like Mayon, EDSA, Rizal, [I've tried HUNDREDS!] etc.) ->

(Select Street screen) NO MATCHES FOUND. :cry:

But when I go this route, I get several results searching for "QUEZON" :

Where to? -> Cities -> Spell -> Quezon.

Searching for "Makati" however, didn't yield any results.

Please help! TIA!

Oh, btw, My Nuvi 255W: Audio Version: 1.00, GPS SW Version: 3.10b, Software Version 5.10

[woohoo]

You are very funny. Obviously you don't have the contributor's map of roadguide.ph. How dare you say it is doesn't have search capability when in fact it has the feature ever since it was created. Please don't post misleading information when you don't have the full knowledge of what you're talking about.

That's what "AFAIK" was for. No need to state your request because "AFAIK" was an invitation for corrections if needed.

And while you're at it, would you care to download the 1.09 demo map and compare it with your OSM map. You'll be surprised to see that it's not only in Pampanga that roadguide.ph's map has more details. And that is a fact. Accurate as it can be.

Not in all areas. Roadguide still has no roads to the west of Lazatin Blvd. in San Fernando, Pampanga, in the area of St. Jude Village, while OSM has complete roads in that portion. See for yourself, it's the area surrounding coordinates N15.04130 E120.66878.

Also, OSM has more named roads in Pampanga, while Roadguide has very minimal names encoded.

[TholitzReloaded]

That's what "AFAIK" was for. No need to state your request because "AFAIK" was an invitation for corrections if needed.

Not in all areas. Roadguide still has no roads to the west of Lazatin Blvd. in San Fernando, Pampanga, in the area of St. Jude Village, while OSM has complete roads in that portion. See for yourself, it's the area surrounding coordinates N15.04130 E120.66878.

Also, OSM has more named roads in Pampanga, while Roadguide has very minimal names encoded.

what does "AFAIK" exactly mean? is it an acronym? hehehe di ko alam eh.

[malamig]

what does "AFAIK" exactly mean? is it an acronym? hehehe di ko alam eh.

"AFAIK" - As far as I know

[ferrarifan]

I did. I used Mapsource to Find Places, but the menu item is disabled/dimmed. Doesn't that mean that the demo map doesn't have Address Search capability? Isn't the demo map used to create the required gmapsupp.img to be used on GPS units with Unlock Code? Or does jan send each contributor a personalized gmapsupp.img?



That's great! Both on Mapsource and on your Nuvi? I can't even use Find Places in Mapsource on the 1.09 demo map. I wonder why? Do I need to uninstall the previous version? My roadguide gmapsupp.img is 31,260,672 bytes in size. How about yours?

I tried POI searching, and yes, it works on the Nuvi. But using Address Search on my Nuvi 255W, I can't find any street! How do you do it on your Nuvi? This is how I do it:

Where to? -> Address -> (Select City in: ) Seach All ->

<Enter House Number> (I just press Done, or I erase the prompt and press DONE ->

<Enter Street> (I type the street name, like Mayon, EDSA, Rizal, [I've tried HUNDREDS!] etc.) ->

(Select Street screen) NO MATCHES FOUND. :cry:

But when I go this route, I get several results searching for "QUEZON" :

Where to? -> Cities -> Spell -> Quezon.

Searching for "Makati" however, didn't yield any results.

Please help! TIA!

Oh, btw, My Nuvi 255W: Audio Version: 1.00, GPS SW Version: 3.10b, Software Version 5.10

That's what "AFAIK" was for. No need to state your request because "AFAIK" was an invitation for corrections if needed.

Not in all areas. Roadguide still has no roads to the west of Lazatin Blvd. in San Fernando, Pampanga, in the area of St. Jude Village, while OSM has complete roads in that portion. See for yourself, it's the area surrounding coordinates N15.04130 E120.66878.

Also, OSM has more named roads in Pampanga, while Roadguide has very minimal names encoded.

The problem here is that you're saying things that are mere assumptions. Like this post of yours....http://tsikot.yehey.com/forums/showp...&postcount=464

For the record, and this is not "AFAIK", the demo map and contributor's map are not equal. For one, the demo map is not search capable while the contributor's map is. Routing is also different between them.

And again, this habit of yours of "assuming" surfaced again at your statement above, "Isn't the demo map used to create the required gmapsupp.img to be used on GPS units with Unlock Code? Or does jan send each contributor a personalized gmapsupp.img?"

It is therefore not fair to roadguide contributors for their map to be compared and put in a bad light when what you're comparing with OSM map is a less-functional (demo) roadguide map. May I suggest that, for sake of accuracy in comparing, you try to contribute to roadguide to obtain the contributor's map. And then compare it with OSM. Otherwise, just refrain from comparing them publicly as you will not get the whole picture and you will just continue to post misleading information.

P.S.
It's not enough to compare them in mapsource, the true test of a functional gps map is when it's being used in actual navigation. Hopefully you can have your contributor's version and have an appreciation of what you're missing...much like this guy....http://www.bmwcarclub.org.ph/forum/showpost.php?p=26068&postcount=183.

And this guy also....http://www.bmwcarclub.org.ph/forum/s...&postcount=239

[oj88]

That's great! Both on Mapsource and on your Nuvi? I can't even use Find Places in Mapsource on the 1.09 demo map. I wonder why? Do I need to uninstall the previous version? My roadguide gmapsupp.img is 31,260,672 bytes in size. How about yours?

I tried POI searching, and yes, it works on the Nuvi. But using Address Search on my Nuvi 255W, I can't find any street! How do you do it on your Nuvi? This is how I do it:

Where to? -> Address -> (Select City in: ) Seach All ->

<Enter House Number> (I just press Done, or I erase the prompt and press DONE ->

<Enter Street> (I type the street name, like Mayon, EDSA, Rizal, [I've tried HUNDREDS!] etc.) ->

(Select Street screen) NO MATCHES FOUND.

But when I go this route, I get several results searching for "QUEZON" :

Where to? -> Cities -> Spell -> Quezon.

Searching for "Makati" however, didn't yield any results.

Please help! TIA!

Oh, btw, My Nuvi 255W: Audio Version: 1.00, GPS SW Version: 3.10b, Software Version 5.10

Address search works fine on both Mapsource and Nuvi.

[oj88]

Cont'd:

[woohoo]

For the record, and this is not "AFAIK", the demo map and contributor's map are not equal. For one, the demo map is not search capable while the contributor's map is. Routing is also different between them.

That's what I've been waiting to hear. Thank you very much for pointing that out. I must have missed it when I joined roadguide.ph forums.

try to contribute to roadguide to obtain the contributor's map. And then compare it with OSM. Otherwise, just refrain from comparing them publicly as you will not get the whole picture and you will just continue to post misleading information.

I have been on the verge of contributing many times in the past, but something would always come up. :sigh: However, I promise to make my long overdue contributions before the year ends.

Thanks again.

[woohoo]

Cont'd:

Thanks. Did you IMMEDIATELY remove the screen shot with the firmware version? I think I saw it when I first read your reply.

And thanks for that glimpse, I now have a similarly updated 255W.