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    #171
    Quote Originally Posted by jresperanza View Post
    we reach our office via expressway from SLEX to NLEX, sa tingin ko naman sa 100kph sa NLEX na tangal na lahat ng dapat ma tangal na abo sa tambutso, field sales kame, need talaga mag idle pa minsan minsan, ngayon lang naman nag luwag sa malls, pag may malapit na mall dun muna ako waiting, minsan swerte kase malamig yung kainan na pag hihintayan ko, minsan malas at mainit kase nag titipid ang establishment, pero nung panahon na wala dine in, no choice kundi mag idle habang nag hihintay at kumain sa loob ng sasakyan...
    Nung as highway ka, you are burning any soot build up.

    Pero during idling for 2 to 3 hours, wala kang in between that period na humahataw makina.

    Walang idling consumption din mabibigay to give a 'cost of fuel per hour', but if 2 to 3 hours ka maghihintay na nakaaircon, mas mahal pa yung sa coffee shop talaga. Kahit magdetour sa mcdo tapos park sa may silong and balik ka sa area mo, baka mas matipid pa cost wise.

    Again, not saying hindi mo dapat ginagawa yun kasi kahit kami nung nagsusundu ng mga bata, walang choice kung hindi magidle ng matagal kasi hindi sabay sabay labasan nila.

    Just that kung maiwasan, iwas kasi hindi tlaga recommended yung long idling.

    Pag ganyan situation, kahit fs ka, i dont think the 10k kms will apply sa oil change, baka need gawin every 5k, kasi yung idling na takbo kinain yung mileage allocation

    But thats me.

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    #172
    Quote Originally Posted by jresperanza View Post

    wait, sabi isa sa strengths ng diesel is mas less ang consumption niya ng fuel while idling compared to gasoline engine???
    that is correct.
    but no amount of 'less consumption' will top the zero consumption (and zero pollution) associated with the engine turned off.
    Last edited by dr. d; November 22nd, 2021 at 05:52 AM.

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    #173
    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    if that were true, then why is your tambutso's insides, as seen at the visible end, black?

    ang natatanggal lang, ay the loosened soots.
    but there is always soot bujild-up when the engine is running.
    it's the nature of the beast.
    ahh, ganun pala yun, akala ko yun ang sinusulusyonan ng pag gamit ng EURO 5 diesel, kaya ko lang naman innobserbahan ang tambutso eh ayaw ko mag carbon buildup ang turbo, pero kung 20,000 to 200,000 rpm umiikot ang turbo eh mag kaka carbon buildup ba siya?

    1st time namin mag ka diesel na sasakyan at bnew pa...

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    Quote Originally Posted by 17Sphynx17 View Post
    Nung as highway ka, you are burning any soot build up.

    Pero during idling for 2 to 3 hours, wala kang in between that period na humahataw makina.

    Walang idling consumption din mabibigay to give a 'cost of fuel per hour', but if 2 to 3 hours ka maghihintay na nakaaircon, mas mahal pa yung sa coffee shop talaga. Kahit magdetour sa mcdo tapos park sa may silong and balik ka sa area mo, baka mas matipid pa cost wise.

    Again, not saying hindi mo dapat ginagawa yun kasi kahit kami nung nagsusundu ng mga bata, walang choice kung hindi magidle ng matagal kasi hindi sabay sabay labasan nila.

    Just that kung maiwasan, iwas kasi hindi tlaga recommended yung long idling.

    Pag ganyan situation, kahit fs ka, i dont think the 10k kms will apply sa oil change, baka need gawin every 5k, kasi yung idling na takbo kinain yung mileage allocation

    But thats me.
    hindi option mag tatambay sa labas ngayon dahil sa covid, minsan mas ok pa kumain sa loob ng sasakyan kase ang init din sa iba mcdo

    ok lang regular oil, kaya namin maka 5000 km in 3 months or less...

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    #175
    Quote Originally Posted by jresperanza View Post
    ahh, ganun pala yun, akala ko yun ang sinusulusyonan ng pag gamit ng EURO 5 diesel, kaya ko lang naman innobserbahan ang tambutso eh ayaw ko mag carbon buildup ang turbo, pero kung 20,000 to 200,000 rpm umiikot ang turbo eh mag kaka carbon buildup ba siya?

    1st time namin mag ka diesel na sasakyan at bnew pa...
    it is in the nature of the diesel engine, to produce carbon in its tailpipe.
    nothing we can do about it.
    as long as it does not spew black smoke, we're good.

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    #176
    I think there was a batch of PPV/SUVs here that got DPFs, around the time Euro 4 was being introduced. I got to drive a CASA unit Montero Sport that had it. Gulat kami after driving through SCTEX it was revving by itself and spewing white smoke. We called our contact at Mitsu and they said it was normal daw -- since the car reached the necessary temp and particulate accumulation for DPF burn-off the ECU decided to do it.

    Those cars wala masyado usok sa tailpipe, drawback is they need an Italian Tune-Up every once in a while to burn off accumulated carbon in the DPF. Too long without a good highway run and the DPF goes bad from too much contamination.

    After a while car manufacturers realized that our emissions testing is barely up to the standards of Euro 2, so they decided to remove the DPFs para one less source of headache. Drawback is the return of soot, smoke and squid ink when idling.

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    #177
    Quote Originally Posted by jresperanza View Post
    hindi option mag tatambay sa labas ngayon dahil sa covid, minsan mas ok pa kumain sa loob ng sasakyan kase ang init din sa iba mcdo

    ok lang regular oil, kaya namin maka 5000 km in 3 months or less...
    sorry sa unioil thread.. pero try mo mag shift sa petron turbo diesel to compare if you will have the same kind of soot..

    sa fortuner kasi, yan gamit ko.. wala soot.. sa dinosaur adventure ko, much lesser ang soot compared sa diesel max..

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    #178


    Heard in the news that SnR was hacked, a cyber attack. Some of the members data may have been stolen.

    Might be the cause of the Unioil SnR discount disruption.

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    #179
    Quote Originally Posted by ale828 View Post


    Snm

    Heard in the news that SnR was hacked, a cyber attack. Some of the members data may have been stolen.

    Might be the cause of the Unioil SnR discount disruption.
    Per the public reports available, the hack access member info + contact number. nothing "too sensitive". But SnR said they will contact those members whose information was access in the breach. Specifically no credit card information.

    Their letter was dated Nov 21, public post was only yesterday Nov 24. But they did not say specific which date/time period the breach/hack happened. So no clarity there.

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    #180
    I posted before how Unioil in Govs Drive GMA would always say their S & R is offline. I guess they had a lot of complaints because now, they’re always online. They just check the validity of your S&R card before serving you.


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