Shell Philippines to launch Euro 4 fuels by Jan. 1, 2016

[anonemus]

When will Euro 6 be required in the country?

[oj88]

sad to know that what we have is an outdated one and we are contented with it

Euro 4 is still current. You'd be surprised that a lot of our neighbors are still on Euro 1 and 2.

The shift from Euro 2 to Euro 4 slashed sulphur emissions by 90% (from 500ppm to 50ppm). Compared to a lot of countries that are still spewing out 150 to 7,000ppm.

You have to look at it as a glass half-full.

http://www.unep.org/transport/new/pc...ix_Jan2015.pdf

[jut703]

sad to know that what we have is an outdated one and we are contented with it

Euro 2 was only required by the government in 2008. That was a delay of more than a decade. Euro 4 was initially planned to be required by 2010, but was unfortunately pushed back to 2012, and even further to 2016.

Again, the ignorance and gall to ask for Euro 5 and 6 as if you were just shopping for Ruffles instead of Piattos in the grocery is nothing short of annoying.

The delay in the implementation was in no small part caused by Petron's lobbying to push back the deadline to 2016. They have already spent over 2 billion dollars in the upgrade of their Limay refinery (RMP2), but it inevitably took a lot of time and they were only able to finish it this year. Shell's Tabangao refinery upgrade was even more of a buzzer-beater, only completed at the tail end of the year.

If the government forced to implement Euro IV in 2012, or perhaps implemented Euro V today, tell me, where exactly will we get the products? Again, our country's 2 refineries have been upgraded extensively but only up to Euro IV standards, as going even higher will translate to exponentially higher costs. Baby steps, but alway ever forward.

If you bring out the argument that Unioil was able to offer Euro IV much earlier compared to major brands, remember that they're a small importer. Even then, at that time, the cost difference of importing Euro IV vs Euro II was over 1 peso per liter. That will inevitably have been passed on to consumers, and would have faced countless complaints from transport groups. And if you consider that the major companies will be unable to use their local refineries as they will have to import 100% of their supply, the cost difference would have been closer to 5 pesos as you will have unused assets just languishing.

Today, the cost difference of Euro II and Euro IV has been reduced significantly to only about 15-30 cents per liter, thanks to local production from our local refineries. This has also allowed importers to negotiate lower prices from their foreign sources. Euro 5 and 6, however, are still significantly more expensive, and forcing to implement them will result in the same problems if we had implemented Euro 4 5 years prior.


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[Djerms]

Again, the ignorance and gall to ask for Euro 5 and 6 as if you were just shopping for Ruffles instead of Piattos in the grocery is nothing short of annoying.


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Its like having a budget of 20 pesos and asking for bacon and eggs.

[Luap]

Its like having a budget of 20 pesos and asking for bacon and eggs.

Parang yung commercial ng Cornetto[emoji1]

[Ry_Tower]

Parang yung commercial ng Cornetto[emoji1]

Exactly, well put Jut and the rest.

[Sweetstack]

Shell is already Euro IV compliant for most of Metro Manila and North Luzon.

They get their supply from Petron in these areas, which, as we know, already sells Euro IV across the board. I just checked the latest COQ (certificate of quality) of diesel from Petron's Limay refinery and sulfur content is really just 0.005%.


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Can we have updates re Euro IV and Euro V sir? Would you know if petron turbo diesel is euro 5 already? thank you

[Kevz321]

What happen if you fill up with euro 2 only fuel on a euro 4 automobile?