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    #611
    hey altec, as always bilib ako sa research mo.

    jaeger, no problem. i think you might be able to use that table on the d4d woes thread i highlighted the lubricity property of biodiesel there. what do you think altec?

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    #612
    Quote Originally Posted by styx189
    hey altec, as always bilib ako sa research mo.

    jaeger, no problem. i think you might be able to use that table on the d4d woes thread i highlighted the lubricity property of biodiesel there. what do you think altec?
    Pwedeng pwede! But kailangan i explain ang effect ng micron levels with lubricity. All I understood is that it 1% blend improves lubricity by 32%, how it goes with the above micron figures and the relevenace of microns, yun dapat din ma explain.

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    #613
    Quote Originally Posted by altec
    Pwedeng pwede! But kailangan i explain ang effect ng micron levels with lubricity. All I understood is that it 1% blend improves lubricity by 32%, how it goes with the above micron figures and the relevenace of microns, yun dapat din ma explain.

    sige, i'll ask aldrin to explain this further.

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    #614
    Altec,Styx,
    Partners, for clarification baka meron lang ako ma share, microns is the unit of measurement sa lubricity using an HFRR equipment ( high frequency resonance etc, etc sorry di ko na alam un R... hehe ). Actually there are 2 test method for determining the lubricity. Another is the BOCLE or the Ball On Cylinder Evaluator which uses grams as unit of measurement.

    For the microns, ibig sabihin, the more scar / sugat created sa isang metal component which is measured in terms of microns ( masyado maliit kasi kaya in terms of microns ), it is more delikado sa engine. Ibig sabihin hindi maganda ang kanyang lubricity. If maliit naman ang scar / sugat that was created in a metal component, it means it has better lubricity.
    Please remember that sa injectors, the clearance of the plunger sa walls is very small. Kaya nga it's very sensitive to moisture and dirt kasi even a small amount of those could damage the injectors. So lubricity is very important especially sa mga CRDi series. Another problems is if prolonged hindi na start ang diesel engine, diesel could volatilize and dried up the injectors which will cause stock up. Kaya if you do have gensets or old car on stocks, i suggest you to warm it up even for 5 minutes lang just to lubricate.

    Guys, I sent some photos sa email ni M2M. Medyo mabagal kasi un PC ko pero i will try to email you all who attended the plant tour. Please give me ur email add. Thanks


    Aaron_Drin

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    #615
    gandang umaga po, just reqistered here, i like the topic. dto ako s baguio.
    tanung ko lang kung may supplier ng biodiesel from SENBEL dto s baguio. nabasa ko s previous repleies n meron, d lang nasabi kung saan exactly. salamat po.

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    #616
    Quote Originally Posted by aaron drin
    Altec,Styx,
    Partners, for clarification baka meron lang ako ma share, microns is the unit of measurement sa lubricity using an HFRR equipment ( high frequency resonance etc, etc sorry di ko na alam un R... hehe ). Actually there are 2 test method for determining the lubricity. Another is the BOCLE or the Ball On Cylinder Evaluator which uses grams as unit of measurement.

    For the microns, ibig sabihin, the more scar / sugat created sa isang metal component which is measured in terms of microns ( masyado maliit kasi kaya in terms of microns ), it is more delikado sa engine. Ibig sabihin hindi maganda ang kanyang lubricity. If maliit naman ang scar / sugat that was created in a metal component, it means it has better lubricity.
    Please remember that sa injectors, the clearance of the plunger sa walls is very small. Kaya nga it's very sensitive to moisture and dirt kasi even a small amount of those could damage the injectors. So lubricity is very important especially sa mga CRDi series. Another problems is if prolonged hindi na start ang diesel engine, diesel could volatilize and dried up the injectors which will cause stock up. Kaya if you do have gensets or old car on stocks, i suggest you to warm it up even for 5 minutes lang just to lubricate.

    Guys, I sent some photos sa email ni M2M. Medyo mabagal kasi un PC ko pero i will try to email you all who attended the plant tour. Please give me ur email add. Thanks


    Aaron_Drin
    yun pala tawag sa ball bearing test that a lot of lubricants have been using to prove their "prowess".

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    #617
    Available na ba biodiesel sa Petron?

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    #618
    Quote Originally Posted by aaron drin
    Altec,Styx,
    Partners, for clarification baka meron lang ako ma share, microns is the unit of measurement sa lubricity using an HFRR equipment ( high frequency resonance etc, etc sorry di ko na alam un R... hehe ). Actually there are 2 test method for determining the lubricity. Another is the BOCLE or the Ball On Cylinder Evaluator which uses grams as unit of measurement.

    For the microns, ibig sabihin, the more scar / sugat created sa isang metal component which is measured in terms of microns ( masyado maliit kasi kaya in terms of microns ), it is more delikado sa engine. Ibig sabihin hindi maganda ang kanyang lubricity. If maliit naman ang scar / sugat that was created in a metal component, it means it has better lubricity.
    Please remember that sa injectors, the clearance of the plunger sa walls is very small. Kaya nga it's very sensitive to moisture and dirt kasi even a small amount of those could damage the injectors. So lubricity is very important especially sa mga CRDi series. Another problems is if prolonged hindi na start ang diesel engine, diesel could volatilize and dried up the injectors which will cause stock up. Kaya if you do have gensets or old car on stocks, i suggest you to warm it up even for 5 minutes lang just to lubricate.

    Guys, I sent some photos sa email ni M2M. Medyo mabagal kasi un PC ko pero i will try to email you all who attended the plant tour. Please give me ur email add. Thanks


    Aaron_Drin
    joievel*yahoo.com

    thanks

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    #619
    Quote Originally Posted by falken
    Available na ba biodiesel sa Petron?
    Apparently, yes, in 200ml and 1L bottles.

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    #620
    Quote Originally Posted by MadMax
    Apparently, yes, in 200ml and 1L bottles.

    Hi would just like to correct the statement, some petron stations are selling it already the rest will follow soon. it is available in 225 ml and 500 ml bottles

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