Biodiesel Rulez!!! [ARCHIVED]

**RafRaf** · August 11th, 2005 08:32 AM

DENR webpage on biodiesel: http://www.doe.gov.ph/alternative/cme.htm
Estrol database: http://www.doe.gov.ph/alternative/Estrol.pdf
BioActiv outlets: http://www.doe.gov.ph/alternative/Bio-activ.pdf

**larshell** · August 11th, 2005 11:08 AM

Is it ok to use Biodiesel to Innova?
Di kaya masira yon CRDI?

**jaeger** · August 11th, 2005 04:32 PM

I have just started using Senbel Estrol in my Innova D-4D CRDI at 1.8% (1-li. BD in 55-li. full tank). So far, my engine (only 2,000km on odometer) seems to be taking it well. As usual, all the positive manifestations of using BD came out. I think, the myth that "using coco-based biodiesel will ruin your CRDI" is not accurate. I only went through with this when I learned that there are already some users of BD in their CRDI Sorrentos without problems.

Also, on the net, France & Germany already require by law BD2 since 2003 scaling up to BD5.75 by 2010, so all the CRDI Benzes & Bimmers are already running with BD.

BTW, their BD in Europe is based on rapeseed oil which has 50-55 cetane index. US is using BD from soybean oil with 53 cetane index. Our BD is based on coconut oil with 70 centane index (no wonder my 3 turbo-diesels now have car-like acceleration).

So I guess BD's safe on CRDIs. If something goes wrong with my engine, I will post it right away.

I think altec has also started using BD in his Innova.

Altec, any encouraging words or precautions?

**laklak** · August 11th, 2005 07:18 PM

Just saw on ANC kanina that Flying V will start selling biodiesel in their service stations * P31.30 / litter

**altec** · August 11th, 2005 08:19 PM

Jaeger, nauna ka na sa akin sa innova! Am still waiting for my next refuel, natagalan lang coz I sent my innova to the casa for warranty claim on the noisy tailgate. Should start by early next week. Will catch up with you. Plan to start at 2% just to be sure that the 1st load is fully mixed before shifting to 1%.

**falken** · August 12th, 2005 12:18 AM

Originally Posted by larshell

Is it ok to use Biodiesel to Innova?
Di kaya masira yon CRDI?

AFAIK, France and Germany have biodiesel already mixed with their diesel, and nauna na doon ang CRDi technology.

**falken** · August 12th, 2005 12:20 AM

Originally Posted by laklak

Just saw on ANC kanina that Flying V will start selling biodiesel in their service stations * P31.30 / litter

Kailan kaya? Nagtanong ako kaninang hapon sa Flying V station P125/ltr. pa rin.

**ergati** · August 12th, 2005 07:59 AM

Originally Posted by altec

Jaeger, nauna ka na sa akin sa innova! Am still waiting for my next refuel, natagalan lang coz I sent my innova to the casa for warranty claim on the noisy tailgate. Should start by early next week. Will catch up with you. Plan to start at 2% just to be sure that the 1st load is fully mixed before shifting to 1%.

Is there really a right % for this? Will it damage the engine if you add too much/too few/too soon? Pasensya na, 1st time diesel owner here (innova din). Might as well try it, for environment's sake.

**larshell** · August 12th, 2005 08:45 AM

Thanks you mga peeps, il try din BD on my next Full tank.

**altec** · August 12th, 2005 09:03 AM

ergati, wala naman set ground rules on the dosage. In the U.S., their military uses BD20, which means 20%. In Europe, they started with 1%, and I think they are now at 5% as a standard. It's a matter of cost, although from my research, seems that if you use 1% or 5%, nababawi with better fuel consumption.

You can read my ongoing research here.
http://www.kotse.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=2718