Auto-LPG Conversion Thread

[ghosthunter]

Thanks Vinj and GH :D

Do we still get to keep the old tanks or, they will replace it with the LPG tank? How often do you guys use gasoline? Everyday, just during start up? My car now does 5~8 per liter, and 11 on the Hway. Matakaw for a 1.6. Sluggish pa umarangkada, kaya one of my option na talaga is itong LpG the other is ibenta ko na sasakyan. :D Pag may time backread naman ako.

The original gasoline tank is still there. The Auto-LPG tank is installed in the trunk.

For SGI-LPG systems, the ecu is programed to start the car with gasoline (and switch to LPG once running) and cycle the injectors every ten to thirty minutes (depending on the program cycle). Some users have requested to disable the gasoline cycle without ill effects.

For my car's Venturi-LPG system (generally not sold anymore), I can decide to manually switch to either LPG or gasoline. Usually I use gasoline for half a day once or twice in a month just to circulate the fuel and activate the gasoline related parts of the car.

Fuel consumption and engine performance will still be the same with SGI-LPG. DO not expect any miracles if/when you have converted your car to LPG.

[XOOMaster]

hi Shibby,

Its specifically designed for Bi-Fuel cars that run their engine on Gasoline to LPG or CNG.

*xoom

is that an oil that is specifically for lpg engines or like the flashlube system?

[shibby75]

Im currently using oil from shell that is specificcaly for lpg engine. The one that comes in a red container. I find it too thick and im looking for alternatives.


Btw oil in a lpg fed engine does not get dark like gas fed engines. My oil is already at4k and still very transparent and clean. Would i still need to change oil upon 5k mileage

[vinj]

anyone here knows where to buy an lpg leak detector? I know may odorant naman but im looking at something that would sense leaks as a last defense pag pumasok sa cabin ang lpg fumes

IMO, unless you have a bad sense of smell, its pretty easy to detect the LPG smell. When i gas up and a ratty, LPG taxi is at the next pump, you can really pick up that bad, irritating smell and you know there's a problem with their LPG system (leak, poor burn, etc).

Thanks Vinj and GH :D

Do we still get to keep the old tanks or, they will replace it with the LPG tank? How often do you guys use gasoline? Everyday, just during start up? My car now does 5~8 per liter, and 11 on the Hway. Matakaw for a 1.6. Sluggish pa umarangkada, kaya one of my option na talaga is itong LpG the other is ibenta ko na sasakyan. :D Pag may time backread naman ako.

Think on it well before you go ahead. If generally you're not happy with the car and really want to sell it then don't go LPG anymore and purchase first the vehicle you really want. If not, then converting your current ride to LPG will really help reduce fuel costs. Just be sure that your ride is in good running condition (no idling problems, cooling system is in order, no leaks, etc) as this will make the tuning easier and the troubleshooting less when they install the LPG kit.

I went to Baguio over the weekend and I took Marcos highway this time since there were some roadworks on Kennon (my usual route). For those unfamiliar with Marcos highway, towards the last section after the tunnel, there are a couple of cardiac climbs (it's straight but the road is deceptively steep that vehicles noticeably run out of breath and the underpowered ones literally crawl). I used LPG all the way and the car took that stretch just the same as if it would be running on gasoline (had to use 2nd gear to pass the slower cars though). I gassed up in Clean Fuel, Baguio and my FC going up was 10.9km/L. (My GPS monitor on the phone picked up a max speed of 176kph on SCTEX Tarlac).

[Mile2]

Im currently using oil from shell that is specificcaly for lpg engine. The one that comes in a red container. I find it too thick and im looking for alternatives.

I have tried that one also, and the engine gets sluggish. Now using to Shell 15w40 and the engine becomes more responsive.

Btw oil in a lpg fed engine does not get dark like gas fed engines. My oil is already at4k and still very transparent and clean. Would i still need to change oil upon 5k mileage

Yes, follow the 5K kms change oil interval to avoid oil gelling and sludge buildup.

[sirkosero]

IMO, unless you have a bad sense of smell, its pretty easy to detect the LPG smell. When i gas up and a ratty, LPG taxi is at the next pump, you can really pick up that bad, irritating smell and you know there's a problem with their LPG system (leak, poor burn, etc).

i plan to have a benchmark to know if its lpg im smelling or if someone farts inside the car. baka mamaya sabihin ng umotot lpg yung mabaho. hehe

[ghosthunter]

i plan to have a benchmark to know if its lpg im smelling or if someone farts inside the car. baka mamaya sabihin ng umotot lpg yung mabaho. hehe

Farts and LPG smell ... you can tell the difference.

[sirkosero]

was finally able to find greenfuel after weeks trying to know the location. without being a customer yet, i give them 2 thumbs DOWN!!!

i talked to this girl who is so arrogant and unaccomodating. considering i talked to one of the techs days back to tell them i was dropping over to know how they convert things. to my dismay, kasalanan ko pa pala na di ko nasulat name ng tech na nakausap ko... hindi na nga ako nakakuha ng maayos na usap, di pa ko pinayagan mag manu-obra sa loob ng shop instead pinaatras lang ako. di nga din tumulong eh.

resigned na pala si lorna matagal na daw.

i am wondering if greenfuel is still a good shop to do my conversion. Any recent feedback anyone? down na din website nila. dun pa ba si bigmike?

[shibby75]

Utol ko 3hrs naghanap ng location nila. A bigger sign would have help. As for aftersales service ok naman , naka 3 tono ako to get the best setting possible. Sabi ng friend ko talaga naman ganon daw na nakakailan tono to get a satisfactory result.

isa lang naman gripe ko sa kanila, the cheap plastic ecu enclosure.

[Vostok]

Hi guys,

Would anyone know where I can find a good LPG installer here in Davao City? Thanks in advance.

[ghosthunter]

Hi guys,

Would anyone know where I can find a good LPG installer here in Davao City? Thanks in advance.

Using Google:

Updated 16 June 2011
Fatihriza International Trade Corp.
Philippines wE EXPORT CAVENDISH BANANAS TO DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE MIDDLE EAST. WE BASE IN DAVAO CITY, PHILIPPINES.AT THSAME TIME,We are a regular auto LPG installer in Davao City, Philippines. in line to this we are in pursuit of putting up LPG and petroleum pump station in several regions ...
Phone 63-82-2271119 Address macasaet comp, davao city, Philippines(Zip/Postal:8000)

[Vostok]

Using Google:

Thanks for this, I checked them out before but they didn't know Tartarini. I'll try to go there again and see if they have it already

[bonito_368]

Hi!

I'm quite new to the whole lpg scene.... I got a 2004 cefiro that has been converted to an lpg system. The thing is, it is a company car so maintenance has been neglected I guess. The LPG system is working fine but it consumes 4.5 km/liter of lpg unlike gas which is 7 km/l. BTW, it has an sgi kit which shifts to gas mode quite fine but there is a lag in shifting to another gear (automatic), lack of power I guess. So I called macro since they were the ones who installed the kit and they told me that they have to tune it up. But their office is quite far from where I am, and other lpg installers wont even bother checking the car since they claimed it is done by Macro so they are the only ones who could tune it up. Is this true?

[ghosthunter]

Hi!

I'm quite new to the whole lpg scene.... I got a 2004 cefiro that has been converted to an lpg system. The thing is, it is a company car so maintenance has been neglected I guess. The LPG system is working fine but it consumes 4.5 km/liter of lpg unlike gas which is 7 km/l. BTW, it has an sgi kit which shifts to gas mode quite fine but there is a lag in shifting to another gear (automatic), lack of power I guess. So I called macro since they were the ones who installed the kit and they told me that they have to tune it up. But their office is quite far from where I am, and other lpg installers wont even bother checking the car since they claimed it is done by Macro so they are the only ones who could tune it up. Is this true?

Unfortunately, they are mostly correct. Each SGI-LPG kit is controlled by a computer and rarely are they compatible to other makes. So it would be worth your fuel-money to schedule a trip to MACRO to have your LPG kit serviced.

Proximity of the Auto-LPG shop is one of my reasons why I chose our Auto-LPG installer. Having them nearby makes it easier if the LPG system needs a service.

[bonito_368]

Thanks GH!

BTW, do you any idea on how much the tune-up would usually cost?

Macro told me that they also have to check my system for leaks and if parts are needed to be replaced, So if any of you guys would be able to help me out to give me an idea on a ballpark figure on how much these would cost would really help me lot... Then I would know if they are charging me reasonably...

[vinj]

I dropped by Xoom last Saturday and i'm satisfied with the tune-up service they did to my kit since they utilize the 02 sensor to read the emissions and the cpu inputs tally up. No guesswork involved. Will be going back to work on the high rpm band to see if we can improve my highway consumption which isn't far off from the 10km/L+ i get during city driving.

Its also best to change oil, spark plugs and (clean/replace) your air filter prior to getting it tuned.

On a related note, I had a compression test done at Speedyfix and the compression readings came out at a healthy 175psi across all 4 cylinders. This is after running on LPG for the last three and a half years and 65,000kms (change oil every 5,000kms using Mobil 1000 mineral oil). I had a scare leading to the compression test but it turned out to be a busted radiator cap.

[n5110]

Hello Sir, Tanong ko lang kung magkano ang compression test and how long is the procedure sa speedyfix. Thanks a lot

I dropped by Xoom last Saturday and i'm satisfied with the tune-up service they did to my kit since they utilize the 02 sensor to read the emissions and the cpu inputs tally up. No guesswork involved. Will be going back to work on the high rpm band to see if we can improve my highway consumption which isn't far off from the 10km/L+ i get during city driving.

Its also best to change oil, spark plugs and (clean/replace) your air filter prior to getting it tuned.

On a related note, I had a compression test done at Speedyfix and the compression readings came out at a healthy 175psi across all 4 cylinders. This is after running on LPG for the last three and a half years and 65,000kms (change oil every 5,000kms using Mobil 1000 mineral oil). I had a scare leading to the compression test but it turned out to be a busted radiator cap.

[vinj]

Hello Sir, Tanong ko lang kung magkano ang compression test and how long is the procedure sa speedyfix. Thanks a lot

Around P 300 or P 350 and it should just take around 5-10 minutes. Sometimes you just have to wait for a mechanic if they're working on several other cars so you may want to drop Speedyfix/Migs a call or text to set an appointment.

[sirkosero]

with the current pump price of unleaded, im wondering bakit parang namatay ang thread na ito? Wala na ba yung mga resident converters?

[vinj]

with the current pump price of unleaded, im wondering bakit parang namatay ang thread na ito? Wala na ba yung mga resident converters?

Perhaps it's still because of people who are scared of the LPG horror stories and more have adjusted their budgets to the pump prices we have today unlike back in 2008 where it really increased dramatically. There are still converters around like Tartarini, Xoom, Greenfuel, etc.