Auto-LPG Conversion Thread

[topgun]

There is one in Pioneer Near Shaw Boulevard You Wont Miss it has a huge sign. I suggest not to have it converted it shortens the life span of the engine and it will wear the fuel lines faster.

not true!!!

how can it wear down the fuel lines when you convert there is a seperate LPG fuel line it does not use the stock fuel line.

dude before you post please do some research first, so as not to mislead the people viewing this thread

[theveed]

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[chuaed]

[SIZE="3"]userfriendly, pwede kaya pa tuned sa autogas power iyun car ko kahit hindi sa kanila pinakabit iyun device?[/SIZE]

[jvm13]

If you have the time, try visiting both NAIADSS and MACRO LPG kit installation centers and talk to the people who previously had their cars converted to run on LPG, especially those who have returned for some "tuning". This can give you some insight of possible problems you might encounter which can be helpful if you have the same model of car.

Most complains are either the vehicle comsumes too much LPG or idling problems. The koreans at NAIADSS seems to address this problem by "re-tuning" the LPG kit by hand (without any other tools like air-fuel meters, etc).

I am not trying to discourage you but I am just trying to give you the reality of the situation.

do you know ba kung saan ung office ng macro? diba Gh sa naiadss ka nagpa convert? ok naman ba ung pagconvert ng auto mo? may mga probs ka na bang na encounter since nagpakabit ka?

[SNAKE V6]

mga sir and sis,konting dagdag sa info wag lang kayo galit,we recomend lpg convert sa nga gas gusler na car,it will be 35 to 40 percent saving with the price of lpg now but kung 1.6litro lang or less car mo and your not clocking 25,000 miles per year minimum its not very practical, but if you are just like yung mga ahente natin sa PI na 250,000 k/m in 5 years . say 25000 liters ng gaso sa 40 pesos kada litro biro mo 350000 pesos savings ng owner or co. di bah.well if i'm a 520 bimmer owner or explorer or expedition,or young mga prestigous car na i keep mo for long time sulit ang kit di bah

Sir tanong lang, what if I have say a 2.3L engine now, then after so so years I want to get a 3.5L engine car, can I transfer the system readily? what mods will be made on the system to suite my displacement/car structure? Is this safe also if I dont have a separate trunk (e.g. SUV's) esp when someone is smoking? Thanks!

[ghosthunter]

do you know ba kung saan ung office ng macro?

dunno where MACRO is located.

diba Gh sa naiadss ka nagpa convert?

yup!

ok naman ba ung pagconvert ng auto mo? may mga probs ka na bang na encounter since nagpakabit ka?

problems? well, typical talyer kind of stuff like you have to watch the installation so everything is cleaned up if they start screwing it up together. Make sure the wires are tied up and not hanging down, those kinds of thing.

Chances are you will need to revisit NAIADSS to retune your LPG kit.

[jvm13]

dunno where MACRO is located.



yup!



problems? well, typical talyer kind of stuff like you have to watch the installation so everything is cleaned up if they start screwing it up together. Make sure the wires are tied up and not hanging down, those kinds of thing.

Chances are you will need to revisit NAIADSS to retune your LPG kit.

pareho lang ba ang consumption ng petrol at lpg sa kotse mo? coz may mga nakakausap ako na pareho lang daw tapos others say mas malakas daw ang lpg sa pagkonsumo..

[jvm13]

ano ba ang advantages ng mas bagong lpg kits other than having newere parts and technologies? mas economical ba talaga compared to the older gens ng lpg kits like that of naiadss and macro?

[userfriendly]

[SIZE="3"]userfriendly, pwede kaya pa tuned sa autogas power iyun car ko kahit hindi sa kanila pinakabit iyun device?[/SIZE]

Di ko alam best to call them at 412-7100

[ghosthunter]

pareho lang ba ang consumption ng petrol at lpg sa kotse mo? coz may mga nakakausap ako na pareho lang daw tapos others say mas malakas daw ang lpg sa pagkonsumo..

well, frankly my first tank is a bit heavy on the consumption. I went back to NAIADSS and had the koreans take a look. They "tuned" the kit so I am still trying it out if there is any improvement. At the moment, the engine is smoother now.

[ghosthunter]

ano ba ang advantages ng mas bagong lpg kits other than having newere parts and technologies? mas economical ba talaga compared to the older gens ng lpg kits like that of naiadss and macro?

I think it would be like describing the development of the fuel system for the gasoline engine from carburated systems to primitive fuel injection to multi-port injection to direct port injection to direct injection systems. They each had an increase in fuel efficiency and power delivery.

[carwise]

Kaya nila yung F150, yung demo nila ay F150. They installed a 90 liter tank sa bed. But since 80% lang ang safe capacity ng tank sa in effect 72 liters ang laman.

sir kaya yan f150 5.7 v8 bayan? yung injector na ini screw sa manifold na lalakihan butas nyan for different engine size.kaya theres a table for each engine size.then most probably dalawa gagamitin vaporizer kasi baka kapusin sa higher rpm. la naman problema engine parameters nyan may software din pang configurate ng orig na parameter tapos kino copy at transfered to the new lpg ecu.

[ghosthunter]

Sir tanong lang, what if I have say a 2.3L engine now, then after so so years I want to get a 3.5L engine car, can I transfer the system readily? what mods will be made on the system to suite my displacement/car structure?

the major parts could be moved but other stuff like the piping and wiring will need to be replaced. Also the LPG vaporizer has a rated flow capacity so a bigger engine might encounter fuel starvation if fitted with the vaporizer for a smaller engine. The same goes with the "mixer" which might not fit a different engine.

Is this safe also if I dont have a separate trunk (e.g. SUV's) esp when someone is smoking?

It is safe. Even the car is not air tight between the cabin to the trunk. In fact if you have ANY leak, it's already something very wrong and should be immediately by looked at and fixed.

[carwise]

Sir tanong lang, what if I have say a 2.3L engine now, then after so so years I want to get a 3.5L engine car, can I transfer the system readily? what mods will be made on the system to suite my displacement/car structure? Is this safe also if I dont have a separate trunk (e.g. SUV's) esp when someone is smoking? Thanks!

sir oo naman it could be transfered as long as same no of cylinder para no need to chage the no of solinoids/injector then kung bigger engine displacement,lalakihan lang butas nung screw type na nozzle sa manifold, ang ecu reprogramable, hey why botther transfering the kit.as survey you can still get a return of 50% from the lpg kit pag binenta mo car mo na may lpg kit na. di bah.ten buy your next car and fit the lates kit again

[userfriendly]

ano ba ang advantages ng mas bagong lpg kits other than having newere parts and technologies? mas economical ba talaga compared to the older gens ng lpg kits like that of naiadss and macro?

I may be wrong, (pls correct me if I am), the main advantage of newer lpg kits is that they maintain the factory settings of your ride. For example the ECU will not be bypassed by the new kits, instead it will be copied and maintained. By using manufacturers ECU settings, rough running, backfires and poorly tuned engines will be minimized. Another benefit is the seamless transition from gasoline to lpg and vice-versa. I heard that the older kits will sometimes shudder for a second or two during change over.

From what I understand, the kits from Naiadss uses the venturi principle. This is basically a mechanical way of controlling the air to gas ratio. The new kits uses its own ECU. This is more accurate but remember that if that ECU fails its going to be expensive to replace. Also naiadss do not have the proper equipment to tune your car.

I have no idea what system macro uses.

[topgun]

just to clarify :

may computer box din yung NAIADSS LPG kits nila, yung civic ko na install nila may seperate computer box


study first before buying!! Huwag mag pa sales talk sa mga tao,

natural they will claim na mas modern ang kits nila,

pero the rule of the thumb is tignan ninyo who is the dominant player,

lahat ng taxi fleets like avis go for NAIADSS, heck even GH and chuaed went for NAIADSS

[jvm13]

ayt, thanks! gaano ba katagal ma install ang lpg kit?will it take me a whole day for them to finish the installation?

[chuaed]

ayt, thanks! gaano ba katagal ma install ang lpg kit?will it take me a whole day for them to finish the installation?

it will depends on the type of vehicle you'll be having it installed, mabilis nila kabitan iyun mga toyota corolla lovelife model...

with regards to my car ginawa nila simula ng umaga hanggan gabi, dahil first time lang sila nag kabit ng chevy optra...

[theveed]

just to clarify :

may computer box din yung NAIADSS LPG kits nila, yung civic ko na install nila may seperate computer box


study first before buying!! Huwag mag pa sales talk sa mga tao,

natural they will claim na mas modern ang kits nila,

pero the rule of the thumb is tignan ninyo who is the dominant player,

lahat ng taxi fleets like avis go for NAIADSS, heck even GH and chuaed went for NAIADSS

pwede po pa post ng pic ng ECU na to? THanks po.

[chuaed]

pwede po pa post ng pic ng ECU na to? THanks po.

i think tawag nila doon ay emulator eck eck...:pcwhack:



makikita niyo iyun solenoid valve sa ilalim nun iyun ECU (emulator)

kakahiya dumi ng engine ko...:mop: