Auto-LPG Conversion Thread

[ghosthunter]

with the current pump price of unleaded, im wondering bakit parang namatay ang thread na ito? Wala na ba yung mga resident converters?

Most of those who want to convert to Auto-LPG has already converted (like me and my family, family friends, relatives, etc). Those who have reservations against converting... well if they haven't been convinced in the last round of oil price hikes, I doubt they would be convinced until the prices of gasoline would hit P100/L.

Also, most or all questions about conversion and daily use of Auto-LPG converted cars have already been answered. So it's just a matter of back-reading what has already been previously posted.

[XOOMaster]

hi Ghosthunter.. maybe you could create an Auto-LPG group in facebook so that all users private or public could gather and give tips and opinions more frequently.
Xoom has created a Facebook page where we upload our latest conversion pics. As well as a Twitter account. Both are in the infancy stage and hopefully could pick up soon.
Our facebook is Xoom Auto Gaz, Inc. and twitter is Xoomautogaz
Cheers!

[shibby75]

im a satisfied lpg consumer and im just waiting for the warranty on my innova to expire before i convert it also to lpg.

one thing i have noticed while using lpg, my fuel consumption falls as low as 5.2kml whenever i gas up at tiger lpg

BUt when i.shift to big operators like total, my consumption hovers around 7kml. which.is also thesame figure when using pure gas.

i think tiger machunes are not dispensing the proper amount of fuel resulting in bad FC.

[paolorenzo]

After over half-a-year of being offline... (tsikot.yehey.com pa nga ang nasa bookmark ko eh).

My EROOM closed loop kit conked out just recently after over 3 years of service. It will switch to LPG from gas, but cannot idle anymore. Once you lift your foot from the gas pedal, engine stalls straightaway. But if you keep your foot down, LPG can sustain the engine, but at over 2000rpm.

Buti na lang sir bigfootoz is now back with Denso, and they can again service EROOM on a best-efforts basis. Denso's technician, Lito, still has his LPG game on, and traced the problem back to a solenoid valve on the vaporizer. Unfortunately, they do not have parts to replace the solenoid valve only. I had to purchase the entire vaporizer. Fortunately, meron pa rin spare si bigfootoz na dalawang EROOM vaporizers. Replaced vaporizer and problem solved. Thank you bigfootoz and Lito of Denso.

Sana Xoom can help me replace the solenoid valve only, para meron ako spare vaporizer at hand.

Before fixing the issue, they advised that I should have my throttle body cleaned first, so I went to Phoenix Marcos Highway to have Leonard of Motor Doctor work on it. Lots of soot cleaned out. Launch diagnostics reveals no other issues.

Next project is to get my Revo's gas tank and fuel lines cleaned up, and fuel filter replaced. I went back to gas for a whole week while LPG was dead, and I could feel na parang sakal yung gas. Meron lag. Feeling drive by wire ang Revo ko.

[ghosthunter]

hi Ghosthunter.. maybe you could create an Auto-LPG group in facebook so that all users private or public could gather and give tips and opinions more frequently.
Xoom has created a Facebook page where we upload our latest conversion pics. As well as a Twitter account. Both are in the infancy stage and hopefully could pick up soon.
Our facebook is Xoom Auto Gaz, Inc. and twitter is Xoomautogaz
Cheers!

Shouldn't the FB page be setup by someone from the association of Auto-LPG converters instead of by a private individual?

[sirkosero]

went to baguio for a vacation. madami na din pala mga naka lpg na fx dun wala naman yata problema dun kasi matutulin pa din magdrive mga taxi drivers

[ghosthunter]

went to baguio for a vacation. madami na din pala mga naka lpg na fx dun wala naman yata problema dun kasi matutulin pa din magdrive mga taxi drivers

As long as the LPG kit is adjusted properly for the ambient condition, performance (with LPG) is not a problem. My corolla uses a carb type LPG kit, that is why when I drove up to Baguio my engine was running rough. SGI-LPG kits adapts well to changes in air pressure and retains the engine output in Baguio or at Manila.

[vinj]

SGI-LPG kits adapts well to changes in air pressure and retains the engine output in Baguio or at Manila.

I can attest to that. My LPG Altis goes up to Baguio twice or thrice a year and it never misses a beat; whether fully laden or running light. In fact, giving incentives to run on LPG up there is one good way to help clean up the Baguio City air.

[sirkosero]

i guess availability of lpg station is still a concern in baguio. madami naman taxi ang naka lpg pero parang wala akong nakitang station malapit sa city

[n5110]

been using my lpg equipped car for more than 3 years now and i can say im very satisfied user because of all the benefits specially on the peso savings that can be realize over a period of using the kit. in less than 1 year na recover ko na yung expense ko sa kit.

ang tanong ko lang po kung may kilala na kayo na nagpa convert ng honda civic fd? if yes, what kind of kit does it need sgi? kamusta naman ang performance nito. gamit ko po ay emulator sa kotse ko ngayon. maraming salamat.

[vinj]

i guess availability of lpg station is still a concern in baguio. madami naman taxi ang naka lpg pero parang wala akong nakitang station malapit sa city

The Clean Fuel Station there is quite nice and it's located along Bokawkan Road before the Magsaysay Ave. flyover. There was one along Marcos highway (small, one pump station using Petron Xtend) however it closed down.

* the converting an FD, best to go for SGI.

[Louga]

Hello sir,

may ask lang po ako regarding sa minor issue ng sgi kit ko. i still experience yun delayed acceleration during sudden "tapak" ng accelarator (selenyador) na eexperience ko ito usually sa inclined place from dead stop tapos biglang aabante ka;sa humps from dead stop at gusto mo lang ipasampa yun gulong mo at syempre tendency is to "pitikin" lang yun accelerator para makasampa lang. maexperience din ito pag naka full stop ka at biglang tapak sa accelarator. parang walang pumapasok na power during the sudden initial acceleration. ang ginagawa ko na lang yan parang "phasing" yun tapak para maiwasan lang iyon.

ask ko lang sana sa mga naka innova lpg, naexperience niyo din ba ito?. sa attached picture, same lang din ba ang position ng injector nyo compared sa akin?

napatignan ko na ito kay greenfuel at sabi baka daw masyado malayo yun injector don sa butas sa manifold (nozzle). parang mahaba ang hose.

my options are:
1. go to xoom baka magawan ng paraan para sakaling mapalapit pa ng unti and maybe change the orientation ng injector to make it upside down(?). nakausap ko na si nick pero patignan ko pag natapos na warranty ng kit ko this feb.
2. if persist pa after doing #1 maybe swap my injector rail (yun apatan) to dalawahan (2 injectors per rail) para masiksik siya malapit sa manifold. kahit siguro magdagdag ako ng kaunti (parts + labor) basta abot kaya hehehe.

baka sakali lang may idea or naexperience niyo na ito.pashare naman po.

TIA.

[ghosthunter]

My brother's 2nd gen CRV experienced the same issue. I just dont exactly remember right now what Greenfuel did to remedy the problem.

I think it has to do with the water line used for the vaporizer. I think the water line they initially used stopped circulating water when the engine is at idle or near idle rpm or something like that. I'll check with my brother to confirm.

[Louga]

My brother's 2nd gen CRV experienced the same issue. I just dont exactly remember right now what Greenfuel did to remedy the problem.

I think it has to do with the water line used for the vaporizer. I think the water line they initially used stopped circulating water when the engine is at idle or near idle rpm or something like that. I'll check with my brother to confirm.

thank you *GH. I'm satisfied naman with the kit kaya lang kung may solution dito without swapping/replacing injector mas ok. medyo hindi lang gaano comfortable pag naexperience ko yun. parang nagugulat lang at pag hindi nacontrol yun clutch minsan namamatay. pero rare naman ako namatayan since anticipated ko na behaviour.

[ghosthunter]

BTW, my bro describes the condition as "sinok"...

[shibby75]

so hindi pantay pantay ng position ng lpg injectors mo? a friends crv had a small issue with delayed aceleration, he re tapped the injectors closer to the intake and grinded a large portion from the injectors since it portrude inside the manifold which could create turbulence inside the manifold. His acceleration response did improved.

[Mile2]

base sa picture pareho lang ang position ng injectors points sa manifold nung sa akin. Same din ang position ng injector rails.

what I remember was they re sized my injectors to a larger one and the Coils replaced to BFC (Big coils).

[Louga]

so hindi pantay pantay ng position ng lpg injectors mo? a friends crv had a small issue with delayed aceleration, he re tapped the injectors closer to the intake and grinded a large portion from the injectors since it portrude inside the manifold which could create turbulence inside the manifold. His acceleration response did improved.

thanks *shibby - yun mga hoses sa injector parang hindi gaano pantay pantay hehehe. binawasan na yan ni xoom non dinala ko siya don the first time to fix may jerk, sluggish, lack of power issues.

yun engine bay kasi ng innova wala gaano place to have the rail injector (un apatan na injector sa iisang rail) to get closer unlike yun ibang engine bay.

paki explain naman ng kunti ito: "grinded a large portion from the injectors since it portrude inside the manifold which could create turbulence inside the manifold."

[Louga]

base sa picture pareho lang ang position ng injectors points sa manifold nung sa akin. Same din ang position ng injector rails.

what I remember was they re sized my injectors to a larger one and the Coils replaced to BFC (Big coils).

*mile2 - BFC coil na din yun sakin when i asked them. hindi kaba nakakaexperience na issue ko? actually ok man talaga power ng engine ito lang talaga yun natitirang issue ko. naraised ko na din ito sa kanila pero hindi naayos e. last recommendation ay palit/swap injector papunta don sa 2 injectors per rail para masiksik siya closer. pero kung ganito din setup sayo at same lang naman tayo ng kit, baka hindi lang ito injector position issue.

ipatignan ko na lang kay xoom baka magawan niya paraan.

another question not related to my issue: nagpalagay kaba cut-off relay innova mo? sakin kasi wala pero follow ko lang lage yun advise dito sa forum na keep 1/4 gasoline sa tank para iwas sira sa pump

[Mile2]

*mile2 - BFC coil na din yun sakin when i asked them. hindi kaba nakakaexperience na issue ko? actually ok man talaga power ng engine ito lang talaga yun natitirang issue ko. naraised ko na din ito sa kanila pero hindi naayos e. last recommendation ay palit/swap injector papunta don sa 2 injectors per rail para masiksik siya closer. pero kung ganito din setup sayo at same lang naman tayo ng kit, baka hindi lang ito injector position issue.

ipatignan ko na lang kay xoom baka magawan niya paraan.

another question not related to my issue: nagpalagay kaba cut-off relay innova mo? sakin kasi wala pero follow ko lang lage yun advise dito sa forum na keep 1/4 gasoline sa tank para iwas sira sa pump

I don't remember having a cut-off relay. I usually run around 200 meters slow and below 2K RPM every morning going around my area to pick up my passengers which is still on gasoline, then hit the highway on automatic switching to LPG passing the 2K RPM. Same with me for 1/4 gasoline reserve as minimum.

Yung issue mo na walang power during sudden quick stepping on the gas pedal, yes I do experience them once in while but I already learned to dealt with it since our ride has electronic gas pedal and response has delay even on pure gasoline. You just need to prime it a bit before stepping hard.