Auto-LPG Conversion Thread

[samira]

[SIZE=2]Thanks so much straker and blueVespa!!!
To Straker: What i read on this thread still confuses because i have not seen the real thing yet. There are some things mentioned in this thread i just don't understand yet.
To BlueVespa: Where is Greengas located? Approximately how much did you spend for the conversion? What kind of body modifications will they do with fitting in a toroidal tank? What is the capacity of the cylindrical tank you installed on your crv? How long will the conversion be done? dami tanong hope you could answer. thanks so much in advance!!


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[straker]

[SIZE=2]Thanks so much straker and blueVespa!!![/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]To Straker: What i read on this thread still confuses because i have not seen the real thing yet. There are some things mentioned in this thread i just don't understand yet.[/SIZE]

Actually, I'm no auto expert myself....You can check the LPG kit sites that GH mentioned in the list, but nothing beats dropping by the shop. By seeing them in action and talking to the folks will give you more info to make that important decision.

[n5110]

Actually, I'm no auto expert myself....You can check the LPG kit sites that GH mentioned in the list, but nothing beats dropping by the shop. By seeing them in action and talking to the folks will give you more info to make that important decision.

true. naka 2 trips ako sa greenfuel before ako nagpa convert. mas madaling maintindihan yung process when you see the actual parts, conversion process and talking to the installers. mas ok pa nga ito kesa magbasa ng 130pages thread hehe.

[BlueVespa]

[SIZE=2]Thanks so much straker and blueVespa!!!
To Straker: What i read on this thread still confuses because i have not seen the real thing yet. There are some things mentioned in this thread i just don't understand yet.
To BlueVespa: Where is Greengas located? Approximately how much did you spend for the conversion? What kind of body modifications will they do with fitting in a toroidal tank? What is the capacity of the cylindrical tank you installed on your crv? How long will the conversion be done? dami tanong hope you could answer. thanks so much in advance!!


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My CR-V is a Gen1 so the toroidal tank couldn't fit under the picnic table without having to cut away / bend a portion of the sheet metal. I think it fits in a Gen2.

Greengas is inside the Velco LPG gas station along Mindanao Avenue across Veterans Hospital. I suggest you go there.

I paid P40k for the SGI system with a 40l tank, although I think Sharon has increased her prices. Conversion took 5 days because I initially wanted a toroidal tank and could not make up my mind about the cylindrical tank right away.

I don't know if it helped that I was there when the system was tuned, but we did an actual road test / tweaking (with my "normal" driving style) with the laptop connected to the ECU.

Hope this helps.

[MFB]

What LPG kits locally available work with the latest Subaru Forester 2.5 Turbo?

[niky]

What LPG kits locally available work with the latest Subaru Forester 2.5 Turbo?

You'll possibly need a mid-range kit, the ones being sold for 3 liter engines and higher. You can also get the EconoGas VOGAS kit, which does real-time mixing of LPG and gasoline... so you can run 100% LPG at low rpms but still have punch at higher rpms, with gasoline off-setting the possible lack of flow from the LPG injectors.

You can try to go to Speedlab and have them install Greenfuel's 3 liter and up SGI kit... (the one for engines up to 2.5 liters will definitely not work for your engine)... they can provide on-the-spot tuning options (which I mentioned a few pages back) which will help your car run right on LPG.

And they're aching to do a Turbo-LPG conversion... there's a possibility that, with the right tuning, LPG will give you more power than gasoline, due to the better resistance to knock with ignition advance at high boost.

[bigfootoz]

I'll find time to drop by your shop. Got photos of the jobs you've done on the APV? Will donut tanks fit on it? Assuming both closed-loop & SGI are available, what will you recommend?

You have a branch in Highway54, can the same jobs be done there?

the branch in hi-way 54 is just the office of our korean representative. Installation is done here at my shop in Vito cruz makati. near Shopwise P.tamo.

For the tank, no need to use the donut tank, I cna show you pictures of how it can be done unis cylindrical tanks.

For economical reasons and I would suggest a close-loop.

But our SGI system will be available by end of this month (according to our principals).

[straker]

For the tank, no need to use the donut tank, I cna show you pictures of how it can be done unis cylindrical tanks.

For economical reasons and I would suggest a close-loop.

But our SGI system will be available by end of this month (according to our principals).

I hate to admit it, your offer is VERY TEMPTING :inlababu:

I'm inclined to use a donut to keep the trunk space as much as possible.

[straker]

Is it wise for a car owner to turn his car from petrol to a purely LPG? And use the car's existing tank and fuel lines exclusively for LPG and plug in the heater, vaporiser and other gadgets between the fuel line and the engine?

[XOOMaster]

Is it wise for a car owner to turn his car from petrol to a purely LPG? And use the car's existing tank and fuel lines exclusively for LPG and plug in the heater, vaporiser and other gadgets between the fuel line and the engine?

I wouldn't recommend such. Being able to switch to and from LPG to Petrol is a wiser decision since most LPG Stations are situated around the Metro and are not yet present in most Provinces. if you decide to convert your vehicle to SGI you would also need Petrol for start-up before it switches you automatically to LPG and visa versa. The Petrol lines cannot be used by LPG, it will have its separate line from the tank's multivalve going to the vaporizer via copper pipe. The Vaporizer and other gadgets are placed systematically and mapped out in your engine compartment. Hope this helps!

[userfriendly]

Is it wise for a car owner to turn his car from petrol to a purely LPG? And use the car's existing tank and fuel lines exclusively for LPG and plug in the heater, vaporiser and other gadgets between the fuel line and the engine?

Dont think its possible kasi ang nipis ng ordinary gas tank and hindi pressurized like a lpg tank.

But better wait for the experts like GH, Big Mike, Bigfootz, Xoom etc to answer.

On second thought, why even bother, just convert and keep your car bi-fuel. Best compromise. No problems of running out of lpg, since you can fill upp with gas. Fill both tanks and you will have incredible range. Need more power, switch to gas.

Edit: Naunahan pala ko ni Xoomaster.

[ghosthunter]

Is it wise for a car owner to turn his car from petrol to a purely LPG?

Personally, no, if it's a privately owned car. Even though there are a good number of refueling stations already in Metro Manila, outside the city, LPG stations are still few and far in-between.

Removing the gasoline tank would mean a limited round-trip range for the car unless the destination would have a LPG refueling station available. Of course, I have driven to Baguio and back on a tank of LPG (without refueling) but I was literally driving on fumes when I got back to Manila.

If you are really keen on removing the original gasoline tank and placing the LPG tank where the gasoline tank used to be, it would be recommended to install a small gasoline fuel cell (maybe 4 or 5 liters capacity) as a backup.

And use the car's existing tank and fuel lines exclusively for LPG and plug in the heater, vaporiser and other gadgets between the fuel line and the engine?

As for using a car's original fuel line, etc for LPG, you cannot do such because LPG is a pressurized gas/liquid. What can be done though is to re-use the space of the original gasoline tank for the Auto-LPG tank (if you really want to convert your car as 100% LPG only).

[XOOMaster]

Hi guys! I'd like to invite all of you to drop by our our station in Timog, Q.C. we are right across Tramway. We have a Gas Back Promo for all of you. Here's the mechanics.. 1 liter is 1 point.. we have 500 points, 1000 points and 2500 points. 500 = 5 liters free; 1000 = 10 liters free; 2500 = 25 liters free. We have a card that we give to you. You just have to give you card to the pump attendants every time you pay and your points will be recorded in our system as well as printed out on your receipts.
See you all!

[noc_manila]

Aba ok ito ah . Sir are you accepting credit card kasama ba sa promo using credit card

[smdelfin]

Hi guys! I'd like to invite all of you to drop by our our station in Timog, Q.C. we are right across Tramway. We have a Gas Back Promo for all of you. Here's the mechanics.. 1 liter is 1 point.. we have 500 points, 1000 points and 2500 points. 500 = 5 liters free; 1000 = 10 liters free; 2500 = 25 liters free. We have a card that we give to you. You just have to give you card to the pump attendants every time you pay and your points will be recorded in our system as well as printed out on your receipts.
See you all!

I am satisfied with your conversion of my 1996 Nissan Vanette, and your after-sales support. I also noticed that you have the lowest price of LPG. So I hope that you expand to other parts of the Metro. Maybe you should start expanding in Pasig City?

[smdelfin]

Petron Xtend offers safe, reliable Auto LPG
22 July, 2008
http://www.petronfuelsuccess.com/Hom...8/Default.aspx

[smdelfin]

Meron na ba po dito nakagamit ng Petron-BPI Mastercard para sa Petron auto-LPG? May discount din po ba? Pasok din po ba sa points?

[daneklog]

Its my first post here at the thread. My conversion was done last July 18 at Green fuel, SGI kit kinuha ko since i was able to negotiate the old cost qouted to me last June.

The conversion is doing good now since the time Mike Lim himself diagnosed and customized the installation. Their shop is just a 2km drive away from my place, kaya konting problema naitatakbo ko agad. The people around Greenfuel are very accommodating and professionals. Mr. Mike and Mr. Warren always sees to it that all problems encountered be given proper diagnosis and action.

My ride is an A/T Mitsu Adventure SS, just observed that FC in city driving is just around 4km/l while long drive can reached max of 7km/l. Im still observing my FC hoping it will improve along the way. Subject for transmission check pa din kasi due to the non-normal "hatak" causing FC decrease.

Im also observing the different pumping station near my place since iba ibang FC nakukuha ko from different stations. Tried the following already: Cleanfuel-Shaw, Metro Autogas C5, Seaoil-Bagong Ilog, Pasig and Petron C5.

Like almost everyone, nakaka -experience din ako ng power difference ng petrol at lpg lalo na sa mga uphill areas. Haven't tried also going beyond 3000rpm and 120km speed kahit naka floor na ung gas pedal. Will observe this once my tranny issue is already adressed.

But overall, i am enjoying my conversion so far. Sa katagalan naman siguro, maximum benefit will be given to me naman.

[XOOMaster]

Aba ok ito ah . Sir are you accepting credit card kasama ba sa promo using credit card

Hi sir noc_manila we are still in the process of applying for credit card but for now we can only accept cash. Pls. drop by for a visit and we will assist you in getting your XOOM card. Thanks!

[XOOMaster]

I am satisfied with your conversion of my 1996 Nissan Vanette, and your after-sales support. I also noticed that you have the lowest price of LPG. So I hope that you expand to other parts of the Metro. Maybe you should start expanding in Pasig City?

Hi sir! How are you? I'm glad to hear that your Vanette is running perfectly on LPG. We value your inputs and we would want nothing more than to give you our best service. We have plans for expansion and will update you on it. Thank you for your continued support.