Auto-LPG Conversion Thread

[ghosthunter]

But according to them, that's illegal and the tank must be inside the vehicle. Does anyone here know if it's true?

Not illegal. If they say it is... ask them for the documents from the DTI that say it should be illegal.

[smdelfin]

After conversion, saan na po magpapa-tuneup? Dun lang kung saan ako nagpa-convert? Pwede din sa ibang conversion shops? Di na pwede sa regular shops kung saan dati akong nagpapa-tuneup? Baka magalaw nila yun kit ng di nila alam at masira/maging delikado? Dun po sa mga naka-lpg na, saan kayo nagpapa-tuneup?

[userfriendly]

We inquired at a conversion center in C.Raymundo, Pasig called Gensoko or something like that. I plan to have a donut tank and put it outside the van, to replace the spare tire under the van, just like Teb's Fortuner --> http://bigbigcar.com/boards/Default....51&find=unread
But according to them, that's illegal and the tank must be inside the vehicle. Does anyone here know if it's true?

I'm guessing here but I think they dont have the tanks available and palusot eck eck na lang. Or they dont know how to do it.

[ghosthunter]

After conversion, saan na po magpapa-tuneup? Dun lang kung saan ako nagpa-convert? Pwede din sa ibang conversion shops? Di na pwede sa regular shops kung saan dati akong nagpapa-tuneup? Baka magalaw nila yun kit ng di nila alam at masira/maging delikado? Dun po sa mga naka-lpg na, saan kayo nagpapa-tuneup?

You can simply have your car tuned up at your regular tune up place, casa or gasoline station, etc. Just remember to either turn off the LPG system or switch to pure gasoline mode when having it serviced.

No problems with it for the last two years being serviced by the regular people doing it.

[smdelfin]

Thanks ghosthunter. Can you please enlighten me why switch to gas during tuneups? I thought we would want the mechanics to tune our engines for lpg, for more efficient lpg burn? Why tuneup for gas if we plan to use lpg most of the time?

[ghosthunter]

Thanks ghosthunter. Can you please enlighten me why switch to gas during tuneups? I thought we would want the mechanics to tune our engines for lpg, for more efficient lpg burn? Why tuneup for gas if we plan to use lpg most of the time?

First and foremost, the engine was designed to run on gasoline. For most LPG converted cars, engine settings were not changed. So just for conveniece, using the car's stock gasoline settings would minimize any confusion during the tune up process, especially if the car is newer and contains a lot of sensors and electronics.

[j2l]

i currently have a 2004 mazda tribute 3 liter v6. mostly used for city driving and get terrible gas mileage. 5km/l. i use roughly two full tanks a month(120 liters)

just want to inquire:

1.in terms of roi, what would be the best type of lpg system?
2.inquired at denso and as of yesterday, they haven't done a conversion yet on an engine like mine, so they can't give me feedback on how their closed loop system will work on my car.
3.also inquired at greenfuel, and their sgi system for a v6 3 liter engine would cost more than normal. at the price quoted, it would take me a very long time to recover the initial investment
4.is it safe to assume that since i do mostly city driving (and don't mind a bit of power loss), the less expensive closed loop system would be more acceptable in terms of recovering my investment?

thank you in advance for any feedback.

[ghosthunter]

i currently have a 2004 mazda tribute 3 liter v6. mostly used for city driving and get terrible gas mileage. 5km/l. i use roughly two full tanks a month(120 liters)

just want to inquire:

1.in terms of roi, what would be the best type of lpg system?
2.inquired at denso and as of yesterday, they haven't done a conversion yet on an engine like mine, so they can't give me feedback on how their closed loop system will work on my car.
3.also inquired at greenfuel, and their sgi system for a v6 3 liter engine would cost more than normal. at the price quoted, it would take me a very long time to recover the initial investment
4.is it safe to assume that since i do mostly city driving (and don't mind a bit of power loss), the less expensive closed loop system would be more acceptable in terms of recovering my investment?

thank you in advance for any feedback.

Assuming that you aren't too concerned about a few horses lost during LPG operation, definitely Denso's venturi mixer type would have a better ROI than the SGI system since it costs less. Just be careful about DENSO's high cost of "options" like donut tank, etc.

[cody]

anybody experience converting subarus to lpg?

[wesrex315]

hi chief, anyone converted their ford focus 2.0? ill be getting a used one by next week and im planning to convert pra mas matipid sa gas.

anything i should know? kz baka indi fit ung mga lpg tanks sa focus e.

sa mga dealers/installers ng LPG, how can it be installed sa focus considering its a hatchback?

thx boss,

[ghosthunter]

hi chief, anyone converted their ford focus 2.0? ill be getting a used one by next week and im planning to convert pra mas matipid sa gas.

anything i should know? kz baka indi fit ung mga lpg tanks sa focus e.

sa mga dealers/installers ng LPG, how can it be installed sa focus considering its a hatchback?

If the Ford Focus hatchback has a full size spare tire, you can place the 60L or 50L lpg donut fuel tank in the spare tire well. You can then place the spare tire in the "trunk" or replace it with a space saver spare tire.

[H20_1]

Anyone who converted their 2e engine small body

[ezem]

* GH

gagawa ba kayo ng Club LPG? hehehe nabasa ko lang sa bigbigcar hehehe

[ssalonga]

Hi!

Here is more information about emulators especially for those contemplating a venturi conversion on early MPI gasoline engines.....cheers!

http://www.aeb.it/products/emulators

steve

[kingscion]

hi sir GH good day,
im planning to have my car converted to autogas but im a bit confused on what type of kit should i have installed. Im driving a 93 nissan bluebird (sr20DE engine) Im not sure if this engine has an o2 sensor.
I already had price quotations from NAIDSS, DENSO and GREENFUEL. Im planning to have the kit installed by DENSO because so far they are the only one that accept ccard payment for the conversion (in a hurry because of rising fuel prices)
what would you recommend sir?
By the way, I'd like to ask the location of Sucat petron along Alabang -Zapote road that are you referring to in the list of refillers? I called several petron stations in that area and they said they do not refill autogas. I hope you can help me because I live in Bacoor, Cavite. From the list of refillers, Total Alabang and Petron Sucat would be the nearest to my house.
Thank you in advance.

[powerman838]

hi ghosbuster, i've been reading ur thread since i become a member 2 weeks ago, i really find it very informative with regards to our recent problem right now in fuel, i read some from our thread that its posible to convert my 2006 ford focus to LPG by using the 40- 50 liters donut shape tank, am i correct? but the problem is, im base here in cebu, can you give me good advice on where can i have my car converted into LPG? thanks.

[powerman838]

my apology ghosthunter, i type ghostbuster, thats one of my favorite movie b4, hehehe

[aamd]

(UPDATE)

I had mine installed last May 19, 2008 in Pampanga by CAT-GAS for 21k.

I will be posting pictures soon.

Car : 1998 RAV4 4 door
LPG kit: Mixer type, China brand
Tank: Cylindrical tank (maybe around 50 liters)

E10 Unleaded (Shell) STATISTICS:

Distance run: 33.3 KM
Money spent: P245.89
E10 consumed: 5.13 liters
Distance travelled per liter: 6.50 KM/L
Peso/KM: 7.38

LPG STATISTICS:

Period Covered: 19 May 2008 to 21 June 2008
Distance run: 1900.30 KM
LPG Money spent: P9875.18
LPG consumed: 338.90 liters
Distance travelled per liter: 5.93 KM/L
Peso/KM: 5.14
Fuel Loss (LPG compared to E10 unleaded): 9% loss
LPG Savings: 40%

PESO SAVINGS: 8,527.64

So far, i have saved P8.527.64. I will update my progress from time to time. My car drives 60% city and 40% highway (NLEX).

Just to update you, the car of my wife is with Mike Lim (Greenfuel). The car is scheduled to be finished today. I will try to call him in awhile.

Sana tapos na kahit signal no.2 (typhoon frank) sa atin.

[ghosthunter]

hi ghosbuster, i've been reading ur thread since i become a member 2 weeks ago, i really find it very informative with regards to our recent problem right now in fuel, i read some from our thread that its posible to convert my 2006 ford focus to LPG by using the 40- 50 liters donut shape tank, am i correct? but the problem is, im base here in cebu, can you give me good advice on where can i have my car converted into LPG? thanks.

Unfortunately I don't have any info on reputable auto-LPG installers nor list of auto-lpg refueling stations in Cebu as most of my focus is in the Metro Manila area.

As for your Ford Focus, yes, you can have it converted to auto-lpg with a donut type tank (to retain trunk space).

[ghosthunter]

hi sir GH good day,
im planning to have my car converted to autogas but im a bit confused on what type of kit should i have installed. Im driving a 93 nissan bluebird (sr20DE engine) Im not sure if this engine has an o2 sensor.
I already had price quotations from NAIDSS, DENSO and GREENFUEL. Im planning to have the kit installed by DENSO because so far they are the only one that accept ccard payment for the conversion (in a hurry because of rising fuel prices)
what would you recommend sir?
By the way, I'd like to ask the location of Sucat petron along Alabang -Zapote road that are you referring to in the list of refillers? I called several petron stations in that area and they said they do not refill autogas. I hope you can help me because I live in Bacoor, Cavite. From the list of refillers, Total Alabang and Petron Sucat would be the nearest to my house.
Thank you in advance.

First, avoid NAIADSS because there is (inside) internal news that its in financial problems due to infighting of it's owners over money matters.

A venturi mixer kit will work with your engine but it will result in a slight degrade in power due to intake constriction which would be felt at the top part of your engine's RPM range (in both LPG & petrol modes).

Denso can install an oxygen sensor to your engine if it doesn't yet has one. As I would advise others regarding DENSO/EROOM, careful with the "options" because EROOM charges quite a lot for them (as compared to other installers).

The Petron station along the Alabang-Zapote road is located nearer the coastal end. If you are coming from coastal rd, the station will be on your left side five minutes after the flyover if traffic is light.

If there is no close by LPG station nearby cavite, there are a few along the airport road near old domestic airport. There is the NAIADSS auto-LPG station along EDSA near taft. There are also the stations along Buendia before reaching SSH (if you are coming from Roxas). Depends where you work.