Alternative Fuels

**jvm13** · November 3rd, 2005 01:29 AM

i really think its time for us to talk more about alternative fuels. anything about alternative fuels and the state of its development here in the philippines. we can't stay stuck on the fuels we have today because its getting too impractical to use and its not gonna be around forever.

**Belisarius** · November 3rd, 2005 02:16 AM

Take your pick, for gasoline the alternative is ethanol ( a form of wood alcohol ) and CNG ( compressed natural gas - like from manure ) , for diesel, cocomethyester, or coco diesel made from coconuts. The bioexceed from seaoil is a diesel substitute, but it is still more expensive than diesel, but its renewable, ethanol is also from plants, also renewable, most of our ethanol come from Brazil, which uses 85% of it mixed with 15% gasoline. Sea oil's gasoline is all ethanol blended but only at 10% but their unleaded is at 95 octane like other premium gasoline which you have to pay extra.

**wildthing** · November 3rd, 2005 05:18 AM

hydrolylized water - for H2 for gas fed engine vechicles?

**ghosthunter** · November 3rd, 2005 08:57 AM

Originally Posted by jvm13

i really think its time for us to talk more about alternative fuels. anything about alternative fuels and the state of its development here in the philippines. we can't stay stuck on the fuels we have today because its getting too impractical to use and its not gonna be around forever.

LPG conversion for gasoline powered cars. There is a thread about it already.

http://tsikot.yehey.com/forums/showthread.php?t=23236

**niky** · November 3rd, 2005 12:28 PM

Ethanol blends don't really run as well as full gasoline, but the upside to using an ethanol blend is that you're reducing the country's dependence on oil imports.

I vote for full-alcohol conversions! That way we can process it from sugarcane and coconuts. But this may be years away.

**jvm13** · November 3rd, 2005 12:43 PM

i also think that that we should use pure ethanol or any other source of fuel that we can produce locally.

**jvm13** · November 3rd, 2005 12:57 PM

Originally Posted by ghosthunter

LPG conversion for gasoline powered cars. There is a thread about it already.

http://tsikot.yehey.com/forums/showthread.php?t=23236

yes,pero di ba hindi pa rin locally produced and LPG? wala bang nag coconvert to fuel that is locally produced? sorry, i dont have a lot of knowledge on alternative fuels but im very eager to use them

**niky** · November 3rd, 2005 01:19 PM

Would be a nice conversion... but LPG now costs 470 pesos a tank! Bwiset!

**ghosthunter** · November 4th, 2005 06:37 PM

Originally Posted by jvm13

yes,pero di ba hindi pa rin locally produced and LPG? wala bang nag coconvert to fuel that is locally produced? sorry, i dont have a lot of knowledge on alternative fuels but im very eager to use them

unfortunately unless you want your car to run on beer or lambanog, we don't have any sort of locally produced fuel that can be economically feasable on a widescale.

What is locally available is ethanol and bio-diesel. Both have limited production and 100% blends are much more expensive than what they replace (gasoline & diesel). Current solution is to use them mixed into the regular fuel supply, hence the 10% blended fuels we have at the moment.

**jvm13** · November 4th, 2005 09:07 PM

Originally Posted by ghosthunter

unfortunately unless you want your car to run on beer or lambanog, we don't have any sort of locally produced fuel that can be economically feasable on a widescale.

What is locally available is ethanol and bio-diesel. Both have limited production and 100% blends are much more expensive than what they replace (gasoline & diesel). Current solution is to use them mixed into the regular fuel supply, hence the 10% blended fuels we have at the moment.

so presently, ethanol is being mixed into gasoline? does it do any help? i read in another thread na acetone can help improve mileage. I just bought my acetone para i could try it on my car.