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    #31
    Same, a friend of mine sold his DMAX and replaced it with a Strada.

    Best decision he ever made, as per him.

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    In all honesty sir both trucks are good pinaka basis mo nalang po siguro dito is personal preference kaya try to test drive both units nalang to see which you like better. I can't say that the dmax is uncomfortable kasi I came from a Fuego kaya para sakin (sobrang tibay ng Fuego) anything except an unladen double axle truck ay mas comfortable sa fuego hehe. Hilux I can't say anything about kasi wala akong experience pero from inference I feel na they are very similar products.

    p.s. nabasa ko sa Philippine Star all new dmax daw 3rd quarter pa next year. Sa business section ko pa nahukay an indirect article about Isuzus sales growth for this year and forecast. This is the first concrete statement from the company I saw about an all new dmax since 2010 pa ata inaabangan.

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    #33
    Yung mga naka Dmax dito kinakargahan ng isang sakong buhangin yung likuran para balanse daw

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    #34
    Quote Originally Posted by Syuryuken View Post
    Yung mga naka Dmax dito kinakargahan ng isang sakong buhangin yung likuran para balanse daw
    Hindi balanse, from hard to medium body massage lang.

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    Quote Originally Posted by babkalakal View Post
    In all honesty sir both trucks are good pinaka basis mo nalang po siguro dito is personal preference kaya try to test drive both units nalang to see which you like better. I can't say that the dmax is uncomfortable kasi I came from a Fuego kaya para sakin (sobrang tibay ng Fuego) anything except an unladen double axle truck ay mas comfortable sa fuego hehe. Hilux I can't say anything about kasi wala akong experience pero from inference I feel na they are very similar products.

    p.s. nabasa ko sa Philippine Star all new dmax daw 3rd quarter pa next year. Sa business section ko pa nahukay an indirect article about Isuzus sales growth for this year and forecast. This is the first concrete statement from the company I saw about an all new dmax since 2010 pa ata inaabangan.
    NAPAKA-GALING mo talaga Boss Bab! Tunay kang nakaka-intindi talaga pagdating sa terminong utility pickups!

    Cheers at salamat doon sa isang advice chief!


    Quote Originally Posted by casper357 View Post
    vnt na po ung 2.5 hilux dito sir. nung august ata lumabas dito or september.
    hilux lng pota talaga and dmax ung pinagpipilian namin. kasi po ung ibang brand hirap ng piyesa at because of high maintenance. province pa kasi kami sir.
    Hindi lang tama desisyon mo Sir Casper, PERFECTO pati!

    Although parejas lang naman year 2004 model ang makina ng current Philippine-version Dmax (4JJ1-TC standard) at ng Hilux 2.5 D-4D with VNT na ngayon (base platform is 2KD-FTV), mag-Hilux na kayo. Two (2) generations behind na ang Dmax sa atin sa Pinas kumpara sa ibang bansa. Dalawang modifications na ang nakalipas sa Dmax, namely, 4JJ1-TCX in year 2006 after the 4JJ1-TC at ngaun ay improved-version 4JJ1-TCX na nakalagay sa 2012 Dmax RT-50.

    Sakali lang na matanong mo Sir Casper, ang makina naman ng Strada (kahit hindi kayo interesado sa Strada ), maging ngaun pa man at present times ay lumang 1990's model na 4D56 ang makina na sinalpakan lang ng VGT. Mapapansin mo mausok pa rin, lalo na pag binibira kasi luma ang makina. At may power-lag yan before reaching 2000 rpm. Kahit 2.5-litre lang displacement niyan, mas malakas pa din kumain ng diesel kumpara sa Philippine-Dmax 3.0-litre.

    Ang makina ng Strada 2.5 at ng Hilux 2.5 and 3.0 ay mga timing belts ang gamit. Ang Dmax lang ang naka-maintenance free na timing gear-and-chain at ang Strada 3.2 4M41 na naka-timing chain.

    Cheers!




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    #36
    Eto nanaman nag hahanap nanaman tyo ng comfort sa utility truck... nakakatuwa talaga..hehehe

    I like the ranger its Big, must be pain parking it (Heck i'd buy one pero wildtrak). Ganda talaga... hehehe

    New D-max yet to be released mukhang maganda yung face. size looks manegeable.. kita nyo ba yung sa UK nila version, 2.5 twin turbo... Deym ... hihihi... Goodluck if Isuzu brings that here...hahaha

    Hi-lux kasi face lift lang, same chassis. Now offering VNT really? lam naman natin na matagal na yan sa thailand, ngaun lang nilabas nila dito. Really no bragging rights for toyota there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jut703 View Post
    I never said this was an absolute rule. But yes, in general, higher displacements, more cylinders, and higher outputs often lead to higher fuel consumption.

    You can rant all about your theoretical 5-cylinder bullcrap all you want, but I'll bet you my right kidney that the Ranger 3.2 consumes more fuel than a Hilux 2.5G, ceteris paribus.

    Sir idol Jut703, hang-on, not so fast ---- Since you stated the word IN GENERAL, are we sure about in general?

    Here's yet another proof (2008 Department of Energy's Fuel Economy Run) apart from the 2009 Australian 4x4 diesel pickup comparo posted here earlier: http://www.doe.gov.ph/EE/2008%20Fuel...Pick%20Ups.pdf

    Toyota Hilux 2.5 D-4D (102-hp 2KD-FTV) - 19.12 km per litre
    Toyota Innova 2.5 D-4D (102-hp 2KD-FTV) - 18.41 km per litre

    Mitsubishi Strada 2.5 Di-D (136-hp 4D56) - 18.57 km per litre
    Mitsubishi Montero 3.2 Di-D (160-hp 4M41) - 13.05 km per litre

    Nissan Navara 2.5 (144-hp YD25DDTi mid-power) - 17.06 km per litre

    Isuzu Alterra 3.0 Ddi-iTEQ (146-hp 4JJ1-TC) - 19.44 km per litre
    Isuzu D-max 2.5 LT (81-hp 4JA1-L) - 20.57 km per litre
    Isuzu Crosswind 2.5 (81-hp 4JA1-L) - 18.03 km per litre

    Obviously as can be seen, the generality in your statement is not true at all, in general.... The bigger displacement Isuzu Alterra that comes with relatively more powerful engine compared to the Isuzu Crosswind, Nissan Navara (mid-power model), Mitsubishi Strada (non-VGT), Toyota Hilux (non-VGT) and Toyota Innova sips even less fuel than them all.

    But then again, have you heard about the Automobile Association of the Philippines test on the D-max 3.0 Ddi-iTEQ econo-run test that covered 1,844 kilometres in just one-full tank amounting to 76 litres of diesel? That one driven by AAP's Domingo Escarieses in October 2010 posted a fuel mileage of 24.26 km per litre, eclipsing that 20.57 km per litre fuel mileage posted by the D-max 2.5 LT.

    Perhaps you just forgot to consider the word TECHNOLOGY when you made the remark IN GENERAL.

    Personal anecdotes are good sir Jut073, as long as you can back them up ;)

    Cheers!




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    * TS, like what d_mac mentioned go for the Hilux. Medyo disappointing talaga yung Dmax ngayon kasi you are basically paying for upgrades that are just aesthetic. Kahit na yung VNT engine na nasa Hilux ay luma na as per global standards, it's still "newer" compared to what the current Dmax offers.

    Also, mas malaki yung cabin space ng Hilux compared sa Dmax. I personally like the rear seats that fold up to create more space inside. ;)

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    Quote Originally Posted by toughie_g View Post
    * TS, like what d_mac mentioned go for the Hilux. Medyo disappointing talaga yung Dmax ngayon kasi you are basically paying for upgrades that are just aesthetic. Kahit na yung VNT engine na nasa Hilux ay luma na as per global standards, it's still "newer" compared to what the current Dmax offers.

    Also, mas malaki yung cabin space ng Hilux compared sa Dmax. I personally like the rear seats that fold up to create more space inside. ;)
    1st choice ko sir is hilux talaga pero parang ang hirap ng availability nito. pagmatagal talaga ung pila sa hilux baka mag dmax kami.
    nagdadalawang isip din ako sa hilux dahil sa d4d problem na yan. hehe!

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    Quote Originally Posted by casper357 View Post
    1st choice ko sir is hilux talaga pero parang ang hirap ng availability nito. pagmatagal talaga ung pila sa hilux baka mag dmax kami.
    nagdadalawang isip din ako sa hilux dahil sa d4d problem na yan. hehe!
    May waiting time ang Hilux dyan sa inyo sir? Gaano katagal? Nag inquire kasi ako sa Toyota Dasmarinas Cavite yesterday, longest wait is 3 days depende sa color. Yung Extreme Black or Super Red yung may mahabang wait time. Kapag Lithium (Silver) or Freedom White meron DAW stock agad.

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