Tough choice husband vs wife -- help us avoid marital dispute!

**niky** · April 25th, 2017 03:45 PM

Originally Posted by Altwegg

Can you elaborate? When I mentioned Mazda horror stories, one of those was from a relatively new CX9. I initially chalked it up to poor maintenance.

What horror story is it, then?

I know a few V6 CX9 owners... the only complaint, really, is that it drinks gas like an Expedition.

**Altwegg** · April 25th, 2017 03:52 PM

Originally Posted by niky

What horror story is it, then?

I know a few V6 CX9 owners... the only complaint, really, is that it drinks gas like an Expedition.

I didn't push for more info, but it was something around the suspension requiring major repairs after just a couple of years.

The other horror story is of a Mazda coming back to its owner with missing parts, and the casa refusing to take responsibility for it.

**StockEngine** · April 25th, 2017 04:01 PM

Originally Posted by Altwegg

I didn't push for more info, but it was something around the suspension requiring major repairs after just a couple of years.

The other horror story is of a Mazda coming back to its owner with missing parts, and the casa refusing to take responsibility for it.

the newer cx9 is just released also. you're talking about older mazdas

suspension parts do need replacements. wear and tear stuff

not sure if youre from the americas.. theres a webpage about car complaints... have a look if youre weary about certain models...

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**niky** · April 25th, 2017 04:20 PM

Originally Posted by Altwegg

I didn't push for more info, but it was something around the suspension requiring major repairs after just a couple of years.

The other horror story is of a Mazda coming back to its owner with missing parts, and the casa refusing to take responsibility for it.

It pays to know the context.

I've never had a car that DIDN'T need suspension repairs after a couple of years. But then, we do around 20,000 kms a year.

Big, heavy cars will need more repairs.

Modern crossovers like the CX-9 and Explorer have sophisticated multi-link rear suspensions. Not like the big, clunky leaf-spring live-axles of old trucks.

Of course they're not going to be as "indestructible."

**Egan101** · April 25th, 2017 06:00 PM

Originally Posted by Altwegg

3) A close second is the Subaru Forester

Subaru seem to make the Foresters quite robust to last a few years. You can see a number of SH (2008-2013) Foresters still being used by owners and even the older SF (1997-2002) and SG (2002-2008) Foresters, despite their numbers are way below compared to a CRV, RAV4, or Xtrail.

**Altwegg** · April 25th, 2017 06:11 PM

Originally Posted by Egan101

Subaru seem to make the Foresters quite robust to last a few years. You can see a number of SH (2008-2013) Foresters still being used by owners and even the older SF (1997-2002) and SG (2002-2008) Foresters, despite their numbers are way below compared to a CRV, RAV4, or Xtrail.

I love the Foresters. The family still has an 07, and as long as you take care of it, it will take care of you. It is a joy to drive, and IMO is a very practical choice.

**vinj** · April 25th, 2017 06:24 PM

On Toyota as a brand, I used to not like em as i found them boring. Our family garage back in the day had Nissans, a Mitsu, some Fords and a BMW. But as grew older, started owning the cars (and selling them later on), maintaining the cars, and working at the same time, Toyotas are really hard to discount on your list once you list down priorities for a long term ownership, daily driver.

Originally Posted by Altwegg

If there is anything this thread has taught me:

4) Perhaps buying a new car just isn't worth it (from both a practical and emotional standpoint). Mas makakatipid pa ako kung bumili na lang ako ng Seamaster Aqua Terra :P

I had the same thoughts when i was adding up the costs for a trip

**Wh1stl3r** · April 25th, 2017 07:07 PM

Originally Posted by StockEngine

228239 or the 118239 😁

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Hey no Rollies, he was looking at an Omega. 😁

Originally Posted by Altwegg

Close! Looking at

231.10.42.21.01.003

and

231.10.42.21.03.003

Totally forgot about the blue dial. That is also a beauty. Have you tried one on? Might make you change your mind on the car. The 8500 movements are thick though, and make the watch heavy.

**ano727** · April 25th, 2017 11:02 PM

Originally Posted by Altwegg

I didn't push for more info, but it was something around the suspension requiring major repairs after just a couple of years.

The other horror story is of a Mazda coming back to its owner with missing parts, and the casa refusing to take responsibility for it.

Better if we have specific facts shared here instead of generalizing statements.

My 2012 V6 CX9 has not been repaired or any part replaced, only normal PMS and oil/filter changes. My only gripe is its fuel consumption. But hearing the sweet V6 tone in the highway when revved hard is quite rewarding already.

My wife prefers it over our Euro car.

**orly_andico** · April 26th, 2017 01:48 AM

That "Toyota is the most reliable" isn't an urban legend or an unsubstantiated myth..

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That said, Subaru isn't bad. It is one of the very few cars (in the US) that's worth buying new - because used prices are so high it makes no sense to buy used.

Now I might seem like I'm dissing Mazda. But I still own two. And I'll probably get another one at some point. I am "used" to the level of maintenance that Mazda's need.