New yaris 1.3 E vs new city 1.5 cvt

**luis_** · March 29th, 2015 03:32 PM

My vios pms cost is less than 4k every 10's and almost 2k every 5's using mineral oil.

**Drefaith** · March 29th, 2015 05:00 PM

Originally Posted by sientobente

I'll take the yaris on this comparison. Coz I really like how it looks. Regarding PMS cost, I still find Toyota more expensive. For comparison my CRV which is a 2.0 liter, only cost me 4.9k for the first 6-month PMS, while my Altis which was a 1.6 Liter cost me 6.5k for the first 5000kms. Both fully synthetic oil ginamit. Yung every 5,000KMS na yun only will take you 4 to 5 months if you use your car daily. So in effect napapagastos pa ako sa Toyota ng sobra sobra.

Regarding the pms on your altis sir, 6.5k for the fully synthetic oil only? Alam ko free ang labor naman for 1k pms and 5k pms labor right? Ano pa po yung ginawa sa altis nyo nun? Regarding sa use, pwedeng everyday use pero malapit lang panghatid lang sa anak ko mga 20km a day lang balikan.

**Drefaith** · March 29th, 2015 05:05 PM

Originally Posted by luis_

My vios pms cost is less than 4k every 10's and almost 2k every 5's using mineral oil.

San kayo dealer nag papa pms sir? The 4k is semi synth?

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Originally Posted by luis_

My vios pms cost is less than 4k every 10's and almost 2k every 5's using mineral oil.

San kayo dealer nag papa pms sir? The 4k is semi synth?

**dos2** · March 30th, 2015 10:26 AM

Actual Vios 1.3 E AT PMS using mineral oil (same engine as Yaris)

PMS KM READ AMOUNT REMARKS
1K KMS 1499 1,130.45 Jan 2014, 3L oil, gasket, filter FREE 1L oil and labor
5K PMS 4450 1,319.45 May 2014, 4L oil, gasket, filter FREE labor
10K PMS 8278 3,552.80 Dec 2014, 4L oil, gasket, filter, spark plug, brake cleaning, shop supplies

**Horsepower** · March 30th, 2015 10:51 AM

I'll take the Honda 1.5 CVT on this one.

1.3 + ancient AT = sluggish drive & HIGH fuel expenses. I don't know why Toyota isn't implementing CVT yet on their econo cars.

1.5 + CVT = better fuel economy and overall driving performance.

Driving CVT takes some getting used to. I drive a 1.8 CVT (3rd Generation). I can do 23+ kms/L Hwy at 100kmh (1500rpm) / 80kmh (1250rpm). Nissan Sylphy which is a compact class car. 12-14kms/L in city is unheard of for such a size of car and engine but with CVT, it can. On bad traffic, it does 7.5-8km/L which is still not bad. You sit in a spacious quiet cabin, gentle suspension (not like the jarring rock-hard suspension of subcompacts). I think with Bridgestone Ecopia like on the 1.6CVT variant, it will be more frugal (I'm currently on stock Continental contipremiums).

The bad deal here is the yaris because for the price, you only get a 1.3 engine and dinosaur of a transmission. For a little bit more, you get 1.5 + CVT with Honda. To sweeten the deal, negotiate for a rear camera. It's really useful. Having driver aids doesn't make you less of a man (or a driver), you're just smart in using available technology.

TIP: Don't get too attached to your agent, they're just that, agents. They are not your friends. They are after you to sell. So maximize that, make them fight with other agents for your money. THe best agent with the most freebies win.

**jut703** · March 30th, 2015 11:45 AM

Dinosaur transmission? The Vios has one of the most responsive 4ATs I've driven. Definitely quicker than any of Honda's 5ATs.

Yes malakas sa gas because of the limited gear ratios, but it responds instantly to pedal input, maximizing its 4 gears and puny engine.

The Vios makes the most of its 10 year old tech, and though the first gen and 3rd gen share the same engine and transmission on paper, the driving experience has been improved drastically with the current Vios.

**sientobente** · March 30th, 2015 01:54 PM

Originally Posted by Drefaith

Regarding the pms on your altis sir, 6.5k for the fully synthetic oil only? Alam ko free ang labor naman for 1k pms and 5k pms labor right? Ano pa po yung ginawa sa altis nyo nun? Regarding sa use, pwedeng everyday use pero malapit lang panghatid lang sa anak ko mga 20km a day lang balikan.

1k lang sir yung free ang labor. 5k may bayad na. Yung pinalitan aside from the fully synthetic oil is the oil filter, yun lang po ata.

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Originally Posted by Drefaith

Regarding the pms on your altis sir, 6.5k for the fully synthetic oil only? Alam ko free ang labor naman for 1k pms and 5k pms labor right? Ano pa po yung ginawa sa altis nyo nun? Regarding sa use, pwedeng everyday use pero malapit lang panghatid lang sa anak ko mga 20km a day lang balikan.

1k lang sir yung free ang labor. 5k may bayad na. Yung pinalitan aside from the fully synthetic oil is the oil filter, yun lang po ata.

**rohinlee** · March 30th, 2015 03:59 PM

Nice car. I like it.

**Drefaith** · March 31st, 2015 03:36 AM

Originally Posted by dos2

Actual Vios 1.3 E AT PMS using mineral oil (same engine as Yaris)

PMS KM READ AMOUNT REMARKS
1K KMS 1499 1,130.45 Jan 2014, 3L oil, gasket, filter FREE 1L oil and labor
5K PMS 4450 1,319.45 May 2014, 4L oil, gasket, filter FREE labor
10K PMS 8278 3,552.80 Dec 2014, 4L oil, gasket, filter, spark plug, brake cleaning, shop supplies

Btw, is it going to be every 5km? Or you can opt for a fully synthetic and go back after 10km?

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Originally Posted by dos2

Actual Vios 1.3 E AT PMS using mineral oil (same engine as Yaris)

PMS KM READ AMOUNT REMARKS
1K KMS 1499 1,130.45 Jan 2014, 3L oil, gasket, filter FREE 1L oil and labor
5K PMS 4450 1,319.45 May 2014, 4L oil, gasket, filter FREE labor
10K PMS 8278 3,552.80 Dec 2014, 4L oil, gasket, filter, spark plug, brake cleaning, shop supplies

Btw, is it going to be every 5km? Or you can opt for a fully synthetic and go back after 10km?

**Drefaith** · March 31st, 2015 03:42 AM

Originally Posted by luis_

My vios pms cost is less than 4k every 10's and almost 2k every 5's using mineral oil.

So sir, after the first pms, which is 1k km, can you opt for the fully synthetic on the 5k pms so the next pms will be after 10k wc is on the 15k mileage reading?

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Originally Posted by luis_

My vios pms cost is less than 4k every 10's and almost 2k every 5's using mineral oil.

So sir, after the first pms, which is 1k km, can you opt for the fully synthetic on the 5k pms so the next pms will be after 10k wc is on the 15k mileage reading?