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    #251
    Quote Originally Posted by zoom zoom View Post
    We had a hard time choosing between Montero and Everest, but in the end we decided to buy the everest, since our impression was this was more fitted to our family requirements (got 3 kids).

    Kung single pa ako.... I'll probably get the Montero
    Ang una ko tlagang tinest drive Montero at yon sana ang gusto kung bilhin, magre-reserve na nga sana ako to place a downpayment pero nong malaman ko na nagpalit cla ng 4D56 umatras ako kc alam ko yong sakit ng makina na yon, yon ang makina kc ng pajero ko dati mausok. Sinabi ko ito sa Diamond Motors Sales at SA nila bakit pinalitan ng Mits ng 4D56 yong isang VM42 for entry level, sabi nila modified na raw yang makina to adopt CRDi technology kaya di na sya mausok. Pero nong nag launch yong Ford ng New Everest nagisip muna ako. Basa ng mga feedback sa ibang forums later nagdecide kami ng family na bumili na lang ng Everest dahil sa safety features at engine performance.
    Sometime Dec.'10 and Jan. '11 nakita ko in 3 different locations kc nakabuntot ako sa MS latest model umusok pagarangakada nya. Sayang lang ang ganda ng porma pero umuusok pala. Hindi dapat umusok yan kc lalo na bago. Kaya hindi ako naniwala sa sinabi ng SA ng Mitz na hindi raw mausok at buti na lang hindi natuloy yong pagbili ko ng Monte. Pero yong 3.2L na VM42 nila hindi ko lang alam kung mausok yon but I'm sure 4D56 yong makina na umusok kc dalawang variants lang yong makina ng MS. Yong Pajero na 2.8L VM41 engine umuusok din kc nakita yong car ng kapitbahay namin. Hindi pa cguro na rectfiy ng Mits yong problema na ito. I suggest yong mga MS owners mag V-Power kayo para hindi mausok at may self internal cleaning pa yan sa combustion chamber. Yong Everest lagyan mo ng Shell Ultra o yong ordinary diesel walang usok kc maganda ang design ng makina at lalo na naka CRDi sya.

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    #252
    Quote Originally Posted by Edc2d View Post
    Good choice u made a right decision. Safe ka dyan at sa tibay. Yong TCM nyan Siemens made in germany, Yong powertrain (Main Computer box) nyan Bosch kaya wla kang alalahanin pagnalubog yan. dahil yong mga computer boxes nyan compliance ng IP68. Ang gamit ng Mits, at toyota denso hindi IP68, kaya hindi nakadesign at minanufacture yong mga powertrain at TCM nila sa baha. Kahit magtanong kayo sa Toyota at Mits. Yong bumaha sa Iloilo 2008 daming lumubog na fortuner, Everest at Montero. Reklamo yong mga mayari ng fort at monte kc lahat ng computer boxes nila papalitan at ang singil ng casa 100k. Yong Ford Everest walang pinalitan kahit ni isa.
    sir since sir zoom zoom have made his choice i think no need to pull down more ang ibang sasakyan well anyway its a free country peace
    Last edited by tc327; February 3rd, 2011 at 04:16 PM.

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    #253
    Tol , Observation ko lang parehong maganda at mainit sa mata ng mga carnapper.

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    #254
    Quote Originally Posted by Edc2d View Post
    Good choice u made a right decision. Safe ka dyan at sa tibay. Yong TCM nyan Siemens made in germany, Yong powertrain (Main Computer box) nyan Bosch kaya wla kang alalahanin pagnalubog yan. dahil yong mga computer boxes nyan compliance ng IP68. Ang gamit ng Mits, at toyota denso hindi IP68, kaya hindi nakadesign at minanufacture yong mga powertrain at TCM nila sa baha. Kahit magtanong kayo sa Toyota at Mits. Yong bumaha sa Iloilo 2008 daming lumubog na fortuner, Everest at Montero. Reklamo yong mga mayari ng fort at monte kc lahat ng computer boxes nila papalitan at ang singil ng casa 100k. Yong Ford Everest walang pinalitan kahit ni isa.
    IP68.. water proof Electrical enclosure ito or jucntion box diba? nilagay dito yung computer box ng Everest? may mga supplier nito dito.O mga naka monty and fort dyan at lahat ng sasakyan na may computer box, pa design na kayo.. water proof na computer box nyo...

    http://www.ce-tek.co.uk/enclosures-i...FQHybwodgnEMGw

    Quote Originally Posted by Edc2d View Post
    Ang una ko tlagang tinest drive Montero at yon sana ang gusto kung bilhin, magre-reserve na nga sana ako to place a downpayment pero nong malaman ko na nagpalit cla ng 4D56 umatras ako kc alam ko yong sakit ng makina na yon, yon ang makina kc ng pajero ko dati mausok. Sinabi ko ito sa Diamond Motors Sales at SA nila bakit pinalitan ng Mits ng 4D56 yong isang VM42 for entry level, sabi nila modified na raw yang makina to adopt CRDi technology kaya di na sya mausok. Pero nong nag launch yong Ford ng New Everest nagisip muna ako. Basa ng mga feedback sa ibang forums later nagdecide kami ng family na bumili na lang ng Everest dahil sa safety features at engine performance.
    Sometime Dec.'10 and Jan. '11 nakita ko in 3 different locations kc nakabuntot ako sa MS latest model umusok pagarangakada nya. Sayang lang ang ganda ng porma pero umuusok pala. Hindi dapat umusok yan kc lalo na bago. Kaya hindi ako naniwala sa sinabi ng SA ng Mitz na hindi raw mausok at buti na lang hindi natuloy yong pagbili ko ng Monte. Pero yong 3.2L na VM42 nila hindi ko lang alam kung mausok yon but I'm sure 4D56 yong makina na umusok kc dalawang variants lang yong makina ng MS. Yong Pajero na 2.8L VM41 engine umuusok din kc nakita yong car ng kapitbahay namin. Hindi pa cguro na rectfiy ng Mits yong problema na ito. I suggest yong mga MS owners mag V-Power kayo para hindi mausok at may self internal cleaning pa yan sa combustion chamber. Yong Everest lagyan mo ng Shell Ultra o yong ordinary diesel walang usok kc maganda ang design ng makina at lalo na naka CRDi sya.
    walang VM42 and VM41 engine ang Mitsubishi... Baka 4M40 at 4M41 ibig mong sabihin. hindi typo graphic error yan layo ng Letter V sa Number 4... mali lang siguro basa mo.
    Last edited by alainroyce; February 3rd, 2011 at 05:35 PM.

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    #255
    *alainroyce: the ranger/everest's computer box is waterproof.

    the fortuner/innova/hilux does not have a waterproof ecu.

    ondoy proved this.

    I think the strada has a waterproof ECU. I'm not sure.

    tales of everests and rangers being completely submerged up to the roof and still being able to be driven to the casa afterwards are not myths... tanong lang kayo sa FCP.

    the everest is a good vehicle, and in terms of capability and capacity, really up there with the montero and the fortuner.

    the space for the 1st and 2nd rows are really big, and the theatre-type system of seating is nice.

    the third row is something best left for the kids though, but so is the fort and monty's third row. what really boggles my mind is wala man lang headrests ang 3rd row ng everest.

    ang ayoko lang sa montero ngayon e takaw carnap. And the denso CRDi system installed (the jap big 3 use this) was found to be less durable to our dirty diesel compared to the bosch system that hyundai and ford uses.

    and yes, I've seen D4Ds and D-IDs belch smoke. but I've seen a Hyundai CRDi and Ford TDCi belch too. it's really our diesel quality here that's lacking.

    and no, hindi ako SA ng ford. hehe.

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    #256
    Everest daw ang best off-roader sa rivals (Fortuner, Montero Sport)

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    #257
    Quote Originally Posted by alainroyce View Post
    IP68.. water proof Electrical enclosure ito or jucntion box diba? nilagay dito yung computer box ng Everest? may mga supplier nito dito.O mga naka monty and fort dyan at lahat ng sasakyan na may computer box, pa design na kayo.. water proof na computer box nyo...

    http://www.ce-tek.co.uk/enclosures-i...FQHybwodgnEMGw



    walang VM42 and VM41 engine ang Mitsubishi... Baka 4M40 at 4M41 ibig mong sabihin. hindi typo graphic error yan layo ng Letter V sa Number 4... mali lang siguro basa mo.

    baka sir V for 5 and IV is 4(roman numerals) yun ata pgkaintindi nya sir...

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    #258
    Quote Originally Posted by Edc2d View Post
    Ang una ko tlagang tinest drive Montero at yon sana ang gusto kung bilhin, magre-reserve na nga sana ako to place a downpayment pero nong malaman ko na nagpalit cla ng 4D56 umatras ako kc alam ko yong sakit ng makina na yon, yon ang makina kc ng pajero ko dati mausok. Sinabi ko ito sa Diamond Motors Sales at SA nila bakit pinalitan ng Mits ng 4D56 yong isang VM42 for entry level, sabi nila modified na raw yang makina to adopt CRDi technology kaya di na sya mausok. Pero nong nag launch yong Ford ng New Everest nagisip muna ako. Basa ng mga feedback sa ibang forums later nagdecide kami ng family na bumili na lang ng Everest dahil sa safety features at engine performance.
    Sometime Dec.'10 and Jan. '11 nakita ko in 3 different locations kc nakabuntot ako sa MS latest model umusok pagarangakada nya. Sayang lang ang ganda ng porma pero umuusok pala. Hindi dapat umusok yan kc lalo na bago. Kaya hindi ako naniwala sa sinabi ng SA ng Mitz na hindi raw mausok at buti na lang hindi natuloy yong pagbili ko ng Monte. Pero yong 3.2L na VM42 nila hindi ko lang alam kung mausok yon but I'm sure 4D56 yong makina na umusok kc dalawang variants lang yong makina ng MS. Yong Pajero na 2.8L VM41 engine umuusok din kc nakita yong car ng kapitbahay namin. Hindi pa cguro na rectfiy ng Mits yong problema na ito. I suggest yong mga MS owners mag V-Power kayo para hindi mausok at may self internal cleaning pa yan sa combustion chamber. Yong Everest lagyan mo ng Shell Ultra o yong ordinary diesel walang usok kc maganda ang design ng makina at lalo na naka CRDi sya.
    VM42? What's up with this Everest fan boy?

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    #259
    Quote Originally Posted by alainroyce View Post
    IP68.. water proof Electrical enclosure ito or jucntion box diba? nilagay dito yung computer box ng Everest? may mga supplier nito dito.O mga naka monty and fort dyan at lahat ng sasakyan na may computer box, pa design na kayo.. water proof na computer box nyo...

    http://www.ce-tek.co.uk/enclosures-i...FQHybwodgnEMGw



    walang VM42 and VM41 engine ang Mitsubishi... Baka 4M40 at 4M41 ibig mong sabihin. hindi typo graphic error yan layo ng Letter V sa Number 4... mali lang siguro basa mo.
    1. Do u understand the meaning of IP68? U better research dat from the stnd. ok! If u don't have experienced on specifying equipment or device which is complying IP68 do not pull out some vendor website and tell us what is that intended for? If you are an electrical or instrument eng'r. working in the design of oil & gas industries then u can be accomodated as qualified commentator on this. If not, i suggest just park ur keypad.

    2. If you are just trying to make an issue of the spelling then this is not the point. The point is mausok yang mga model na binanggit ko. and if u don't accept it because that is ur car, well sori na lang talagang ganon. Minsan mahirap din tumanggap ng katotohanan ano mga Otoy?

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    #260
    Quote Originally Posted by Walter View Post
    VM42? What's up with this Everest fan boy?
    Walter boy, Montero ba yong sayo? If yes, sori ka na lang.

MONTERO SPORT or FORD EVEREST