[Merged] Honda CITY vs Toyota VIOS

[wilcats]

pero if vios, go for the 1.5 variant

[Mguy]

talagang mas suave kambyo ng city pero mas mabilis ang vios.

monmag,

1.3 vs. 1.3 ba ito? So, pwede natin i-conclude na mas malakas ang VVTI contra i-DSi?

[monmag]

Siguro nga, pero am not an angine guru...all I know (heck I might even be mistaken): yong i-DSI, 8 valves lang ata, conventional 2 in ea cylinder, pero 2 spark plugs ea. Better ignition and combustion (sunog talaga...so no lost power) at SOHC lang pala. Ang take naman ng honda talga dito sa revolutionary engine design nila e fuel efficiency at mukhang matipid nga...i haven't done a 2 digit --- 10-12km/L in a very very long time which I'm experiencing with the City. Ewan ko kung yung vvti at vtec (ng honda) e pareho. Pero 16-valve yong vvti at DOHC. Kung ang pinag eksperimentuhan ng honda sa i-dsi e yong spak plugs, yon naman barbula ang inatake sa vvti ng toyota. Ang take naman ng toyota e dame intake at outake ng sunog...translating to more power (kaya mabilis). Kanya kanya diskarte sila. Pero I'm not sure about fuel efficiency...pero mukhang tipid din naman. But the engine is not the only factor kase...mas mabigat din body ng city kesa vios. kaya din siguro mas mabilis yong latter (in my opinion based don sa test drive ko). yong city na pina test sa akin, talagang demo unit kaya sabe ng agent, ibirit mo hanggang gusto mo. So ayon, feel ko lang parang malaks siya sa lo-mid rpm (arangkada) pero sa rekta baka maubusan. Yong vios naman na pina-test e mukhang unit na about to be released (54km lang on the odo at may plastic pa) kaya medyo alalay lang. Feeling ko e marame pa ibubuga. Pero talagng may sabit sa primera at sa reverse maski gano mo tapakan yong clutch. Yon lang.

[albert_b]

Sana may diesel variant sila ilabas!

iDSI / VVTi /CrDi

hehe :-)

[William Tell]

Just a thought... I hope you can consider the jazz before you make a final decision. i just got mine a few days ago and im still smilling from ear to ear. mind you, i shopped, asked and surfed a lot before i make my final decision.... the jazz is just so much better in a lot of ways.

[zechs]

jazz costs a lot more (50K+ difference din). ewan ko ba kung bakit mas mahal pero halos same lang sila ng city. i sat down sa rear seats ng jazz, i felt cramped. parang mas maliit kasi compared sa city.

or wait for the facelifted city na about to be released this september DAW accdg sa honda shaw. kaya nga when i asked for a quotation for the city, wala siyang mabigay sa akin.

monmag, i think the 1.3E vios can do 12-14kms/L ATA, kung tama yung naalala ko sa nabasa ko sa VCP forums..

[monmag]

zechs, matipid din pala. Meron naman ako nabasa na 8km/L urban driving...i guess our driving habits and route vary, thus, the difference. All I know is that I didn't change my driving habits (which is, *guilty your honor*, a bit on the wasteful side --- always a/c on, a few mins more than necessary of idling on stop and go, before and after a trip, etc.), and city driving or traffic route (more on the moderate to heavy side), yet, I got that more than decent reading. In my old sedan, swerte na ko maka 7kms per.

I stopped dreaming about that 1,114 kms on a full tank in the commercial, tho, in principle, that is the potential of the i-DSI (Jazz yong gamit don). do the math --- that's a whopping 26.5km/L...! That's also theoretically the capability of the city (well maybe a little less 'coz of its weight).

[kmo]

yung 1.5G m/t can do 12km/l due to its power to weight ratio

[zechs]

monmag, ang sinasabi nga sa akin ng isang service adviser dun before we got the car is, kayang nyan mag 23km/L! hehe smile na lang ako..

[Pro Staff]

ako lang, kung kaya lang ng budget ko noon, jazz talaga ang kukunin ko at di vios 1.3

hindi lang talaga umabot un increase ng car plan dito sa ofc

next car ko cguro jazz kapag nakaipon na ulit