Lancer Cedia GLX or Vios 1.3J

[ben_david19]

parang hindi kasi match ang Vios 1.3j vs Lancer Cedia GLX 1.6

old tech engine (for me kahit SOHC at hindi VVT ang engine ok lang naman so not an issue for me, easier maintenance pa nga), old body/design (but still looks very appealing to me) ang Lancer, but jampacked with features plus porma compared to the very bare 1.3j.

kung Altis vs Lancer Cedia pwede, but yung price naman, panalo na ang Lancer so I would opt for the Cedia Lancer hehe.

[hilldweller]

Ang Vios J, rigid-type torsion beam ang rear suspension system while ang sa Lancer independent multi-link with stabilizer ang rear suspension set-up. Pagnalubak ang rear left wheel ng Vios ramdam ng right rear wheel. Ang Lancer lagyan mo ng sideskirts, chins, at spoiler.., rally car/evo na ang itsura.

[ben_david19]

Ang Vios J, rigid-type torsion beam ang rear suspension system while ang sa Lancer independent multi-link with stabilizer ang rear suspension set-up. Pagnalubak ang rear left wheel ng Vios ramdam ng right rear wheel. Ang Lancer lagyan mo ng sideskirts, chins, at spoiler.., rally car/evo na ang itsura.

plus pa yung mga nabanggit mo hehe.

[magister]

this might help. Top Gear article on the Lancer and Vios:

http://www.topgear.com.ph/features/c...vs-toyota-vios

[ben_david19]

this might help. Top Gear article on the Lancer and Vios:

http://www.topgear.com.ph/features/c...vs-toyota-vios

amfs, masyado namang biased yung review ni sir botchi.

1. A newer car will have much better aftersales support and service.


Bakit naman? Nasa service center naman ito, walang say kung anong kotse man ito. Meaning yung mga old models like Adventure ay hindi maganda ang aftersales support and service hehe.



2. The Toyota Vios is smaller and lighter-hence, more fuel efficient. It also has as much useable interior room and space, if not more than the bigger but older Lancer.


Agree. Medyo hindi talaga maganda ang FC nang Lancer compared sa Vios no doubt.



3. The Vios will have better resale value after five to seven years.


Agree, but because it also has a Toyota badge that is why. Actually I don't like cars with high resale values because a wise car buyer would buy a 2nd hand car with a low resale value dahil mas makakakuha siya nang mas bagong model compared to a car with a high resale value. its like buying a 99 Honda City compared to a 02 Nissan Sentra. (let us say both are well maintained, I would opt for the Sentra though). You won't really need the resale value if you are the 2nd owner.



4. In my opinion, the vehicles Mitsubishi designed, engineered and brought to the market prior to 2007 do not have a high-quality feel. They pale in comparison to new Mitsubishi products like the new Lancer, the Montero Sport, Strada and the Pajero.


Maybe, but still, they are reliable vehicles. I own an 02 model adventure. All manufacturers have ups and downs like Toyota's D4D issues and stuck accelerator pedals. Just saw a brand new Fortuner that emits black smoke just this Monday.



5. The B-segment car class (Toyota Vios, Toyota Yaris, Honda City, Honda Jazz, etc.) is the new battleground of the Philippine car market. You might find a better deal buying a small car than buying one from the bigger C-segment (Toyota Altis, Honda Civic, Mitsubishi Lancer, etc.).


Agree. Well said.



6. Small is beautiful. I personally agree to the belief that one should get the smallest car he can get away with to minimize total carbon footprint. Admittedly, that's very subjective.

Agree.

[ben_david19]

Here are some more practical and objective benefits of getting a new model:
1. A new car with a new engine delivers better fuel economy and efficiency with cleaner emissions.


Totally agree.



2. A new car (in this case the smaller Toyota Vios) is lighter. Aside from improving fuel efficiency, its weight also reduces wear on consumable parts like brakes, tires, suspension parts, etc.


Agree.


3. The Toyota Vios is easier to park and maneuver in traffic precisely because it is smaller.


Agree, but its engine bay sucks compared to the Lancer dahil "masikip".



4. Don't you ever wonder why the Toyota Vios is a favorite of taxis, service fleets and medical representatives all over the country? It is tough as nails, built like a tank and will withstand a nuclear meltdown (okay, maybe not).


Almost all cars are built tough except siguro sa mga China cars hehe. Kahit mag heads on sa pagiging Taxi ang Lancer, Vios, Sentra, City, Alto (walang mailagay sa Suzuki kasi hehe), Mazda3, they can withstand extreme driving conditions hehe. Alto nga may taxi fleet eh Lancer pa.

[tidus1203]

Super totally agree ako kay Botchi regarding the part na old Lancers are sirain... Experienced it 100%. So stop saying Adventure and all the other cars cause its the Lancer we are talking about... That alone will make me say go get the Vios.

[ben_david19]

Super totally agree ako kay Botchi regarding the part na old Lancers are sirain... Experienced it 100%. So stop saying Adventure and all the other cars cause its the Lancer we are talking about... That alone will make me say go get the Vios.

last Lancer I had was singkit pa, private-taxi-private again. used for 10 years ok pa rin, but it was a model way back 1992 pa, not really applicable hehe dahil matitibay talaga ang kotse noon. but I am still confident with the old body Lancer Cedia being sold today.

nasabi kasi ni sir botchie na "Mitsubishi vehicles prior year 2007", meaning generalization for all mitsu vehicles 2007 below model hehe not only Lancer.

kanya-kanya namang beef ang isang tao maybe dahil lang sa isang one bad experience. Others dont like honda, others dont like Nissan, others dont like mitsu, others dont like toyota too because of different reasons. May preferences lang talaga ang mga tao.

so far, wala naman akong naririnig gaano na bad reviews about vios. at sa dami palang nito sa kalsada, eh sigurado namang reliable ito.

baklas nga lang daw ang buong dashboard kapag pinalinis ang aircon nang vios hehe, sabagay minsanan lang naman ito.

[tidus1203]

^^Singkit ok pa yun since its even older than the late 90's early 2000's era when Mitsubishi had their quality problems and was part of DaimlerChrysler... Its the Pizza Pie and maybe this Cedia that is in question!

[ben_david19]

^^Singkit ok pa yun since its even older than the late 90's early 2000's era when Mitsubishi had their quality problems and was part of DaimlerChrysler... Its the Pizza Pie and maybe this Cedia that is in question!

you have a point. naisip ko rin kasi, talagang iba yung panahon noon sa ngayon.

should opt for the Lancer Cedia too before, kaso nga, 7 in the family hindi magkakasya sa lancer. AUV pa ang uso noon (wala pang Avanza I remembered hehe) so napunta rin sa AUV segment.

I remembered Britney Spear's "Anticipating" song para sa ad nang Vios too during those days, nagpapakilala palang ang vios, look at its success now, hindi na kailangan si Britney hehe.

good thing about Mitsu, bumabawi na naman dahil nga naging hot item sila noon nung may naaksidenta (hindi nagpa-recall).

well then, time to bring in the house yung Mitsu Colt. sigurado nga lang ang price ay.... kahit ibenta ko swift at advie ko for sure hindi aabot.

[dale323]

Super totally agree ako kay Botchi regarding the part na old Lancers are sirain... Experienced it 100%. So stop saying Adventure and all the other cars cause its the Lancer we are talking about... That alone will make me say go get the Vios.

Ouch! that really hurts... Gusto ko lang malaman kung meron kang bitter experience with cedia? Mine still runs with almost 12k during its first 7months. Suspension prob? still doesn't encounter. Engine prob? none. Mine is too old (KM reading) for its age.

[tidus1203]

Kalampagin na suspension and it only happened after the 4th year of ownership... May time bomb yan! Meron ka pang warranty so hindi pa yan masisira!

[dale323]

Kalampagin na suspension and it only happened after the 4th year of ownership... May time bomb yan! Meron ka pang warranty so hindi pa yan masisira!

I see. Tignan ko na lang kung ganun nga after 100k/3yrs. Also, FYI, my GF's Vios J already experience kalampag this june which is already past 3yrs * 65k odo. FYI lang po.

[dale323]

you have a point. naisip ko rin kasi, talagang iba yung panahon noon sa ngayon.

should opt for the Lancer Cedia too before, kaso nga, 7 in the family hindi magkakasya sa lancer. AUV pa ang uso noon (wala pang Avanza I remembered hehe) so napunta rin sa AUV segment.

I remembered Britney Spear's "Anticipating" song para sa ad nang Vios too during those days, nagpapakilala palang ang vios, look at its success now, hindi na kailangan si Britney hehe.

good thing about Mitsu, bumabawi na naman dahil nga naging hot item sila noon nung may naaksidenta (hindi nagpa-recall).

well then, time to bring in the house yung Mitsu Colt. sigurado nga lang ang price ay.... kahit ibenta ko swift at advie ko for sure hindi aabot.

Ganda talaga ng Colt! malamang, kung nilabas yan, wala ng cedia. If that were the case, malamang... Lowest variant ng Colt ang sasakyan namin. hehehe

[tidus1203]

I see. Tignan ko na lang kung ganun nga after 100k/3yrs. Also, FYI, my GF's Vios J already experience kalampag this june which is already past 3yrs * 65k odo. FYI lang po.

Getting kalampag in the Vios is like winning the lottery, its just not heard off very often! Getting kalampag in the Lancer is like winning in your local BINGO game it is well documented and many people have experienced it...

[tidus1203]

Ganda talaga ng Colt! malamang, kung nilabas yan, wala ng cedia. If that were the case, malamang... Lowest variant ng Colt ang sasakyan namin. hehehe

Dapat ganyan! A true new subcompact to compete with other subcompacts kaysa fielding in retired compacts sold for cheap kasi luma na!

[dale323]

Getting kalampag in the Vios is like winning the lottery, its just not heard off very often! Getting kalampag in the Lancer is like winning in your local BINGO game it is well documented and many people have experienced it...

I hope your right and wrong about this sir tidus. Right about the vios and wrong about Lancer Cedia. I know the pizza and hotdog suspension problem, but about the cedia, wala naman ako nabalitaan dati when I was choosing between Vios and Cedia. Well, I'll wait until 2013 (kung hindi totoo yung 2012, hehehe) para maexperience yung kalampag issues. Sana po wala (same as with the EX since Lancer platform din to). Also, about vios, sige po, di ko na lang ililist pa yung ibang nasakyan ko, malalayo na tayo sa Topic. Sorry po sir tidus if I got emotional about Cedia, Love at first sight ako with my Toothless. (name ng cedia ko)

[drich_enriquez]

Thanks for the really comprehensive explanation! It really helped. Medyo katakotakot yung FC ng Lancer so I'm kinda more inclined to the Vios nowadays. We don't really care if it's a taxi car or something, in fact it's some sort of bonus kasi at least tried and tested ang reliability niya.

Anyway, another concern is that baka hindi kaya ng Vios yung mga medyo matitinding paakyat, and long drives. Although it will be primarily used for city driving, ito na rin ang gagamitin namin for rare weekend outings to places like Pansol and all that. I guess kaya pa naman. Pero baka iuwi rin kasi namin to Bicol yung sasakyan. Kaya kaya ng Vios yung ganun katinding biyahe? Kahit sino po pwede sumagot. Thanks!

Good day. Yun Vios kayang makarating sa destination na sinabi mo kasi yun friend ko Vios gamit niya. Kaya lang pag 5 ang naka sakay, masikip yun loob, yun ang dina daing sa akin ng friend ko, di tulad ng Lancer maluwag. FC ng Lancer sa city talagang malakas compared to the Vios. Makakarating yan kotse mo. Sa matinding akyatan, tip ko parati ka naka bwelo sa akyatan. I don't care rin na Vios is a taxi car, even the GLX Cedia Lancer is a taxi car also (rarely).

[midasproject]

My dad and I used to argue about what to get, he wanted a GLS CVT Lancer while I on the other hand suggested to get the Vios thinking it was more economical to use and maintain over that of a Lancer. In the end, he got what he wanted. We opted out for the Lancer because it looks cooler than the Vios, parts are also abundant and not everybody gets to drive one. Not to mention, aside from all the extras the SA offered us, we also got a 55t price cut (745t slashed down to 690t).

The top of the line unit of the Vios (S variant) is a lot more expensive than the GLS, so we decided, heck, Lancer it is. :D Apparently, the only issue we can think of at this moment is the FC which falls in the 7.5~9city, 11~12Hway and +-9kpl mix.

If you're bothered by the FC, and want to save up on gas get a vios instead. For everything else, get the GLX or better yet a GLS. :D

[after11years]

Hi again!

I think I forgot to post something important here, but the verdict was... a Honda City 1.3S. :D

Best decision of the year.