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    #21
    *broSG and broTidus...kaya nga, baligtad hahaha...


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    I'd also go for the Sportage on this one as the space (think how much gear one packs up for out-of-towners), ride height (visibility and going through the occasional rough patch), and creature comforts compensate for the slightly higher budget. Sure, the Tucson 2.0 Theta II (which shares the same platform as the Sportage) needs an extra ooomph to climb Baguio quickly (due to its apparent long-gearing configuration), but long highway runs are quite okay. in the city, the Sportage's aggressive stance would make it less prone to bullying by other large vehicles, and, given Kia's sportier tuning versus Hyundai, should prove to be adequate in providing much needed torque to zip in and out of traffic.

    If I were to stick strictly to below 1M though (thus not allowing me to get the Sportage), I still won't get the Elantra... I'd probably go for either the Corolla 1.6V, the Lancer EX MX, or even the Nissan Grand Livina Luxury 1.8 AT Roadmaster Edition if space is a requirement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Starex_Gold View Post
    2nd gear 5000RPM para makasabay sa mga gen 1 CRDi at gen 2 R-eVGT. Kasi pag pinasok mo na sa 3rd and 4th gear sa Kennon, sobrang mabibitin na. Isipin mo ang torque ng Theta II eh half lang ng torque ng R-eVGT.

    Ang average FC ko sa Kennon Road uphill ay 9L/100km = 11km/L

    Pero ang Theta II 31.4L/100km = 3.2km/L

    Ngayon alam ko na weakness ng Theta II. That's why we decided to turbocharge the Theta II of Patti.

    Good highway mileage, yeah sort of. Pero halos pareho rin sa 2.4L CR-V 4WD ko eh. Partida 5-speed A/T lang.

    *I have nothing against Theta II. It's just that Hyundai can't perfect their gas engines.
    The Theta II is actually a good platform. 166 hp * 6200 rpm with 20.1 kgm * 4600 rpm of torque is quite good... It's just that its long gear configuration on the Tucson makes the Tucson more suitable for long highway drives instead of hill climbing or city traffic avoidance. I couldn't find a comparison of gearing ratios for the Sportage versus the Tucson which would make for an interesting study.

    If Hyundai gave us the GDI version of the Theta on the Tucson then we'd probably not have these complaints, heheh! Sportage SX with the Theta II 2.0L Turbo GDI? FTW!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Starex_Gold View Post
    2nd gear 5000RPM para makasabay sa mga gen 1 CRDi at gen 2 R-eVGT. Kasi pag pinasok mo na sa 3rd and 4th gear sa Kennon, sobrang mabibitin na. Isipin mo ang torque ng Theta II eh half lang ng torque ng R-eVGT.

    Ang average FC ko sa Kennon Road uphill ay 9L/100km = 11km/L

    Pero ang Theta II 31.4L/100km = 3.2km/L

    Ngayon alam ko na weakness ng Theta II. That's why we decided to turbocharge the Theta II of Patti.

    Good highway mileage, yeah sort of. Pero halos pareho rin sa 2.4L CR-V 4WD ko eh. Partida 5-speed A/T lang.

    *I have nothing against Theta II. It's just that Hyundai can't perfect their gas engines.
    Ano ba yan, pati ang Gen 1 hindi mahabol-habol sa akyatan? Ano ba ang average speed mo sa Kennon? Baka naman yung tipong 70-90km/h more or less? But still... 3.2km/L?!

    Same gearbox lang ba ang Sportage and Tucson? So 3.2km/L din siya sa Kennon Road?

    So what happened after the turbocharging? Did you have to change other components? How much did the hp and torque improve according to dyno results?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GTi View Post
    Ano ba yan, pati ang Gen 1 hindi mahabol-habol sa akyatan? Ano ba ang average speed mo sa Kennon? Baka naman yung tipong 70-90km/h more or less? But still... 3.2km/L?!

    Same gearbox lang ba ang Sportage and Tucson? So 3.2km/L din siya sa Kennon Road?

    So what happened after the turbocharging? Did you have to change other components? How much did the hp and torque improve according to dyno results?
    Sumasakit na ulo ko sa kasasagot ang dami mong tanong

    Average speed uphill 60km/h barely hit 80km/h. Mabilis ang convoy namin pero hindi naman reckless tulad ng sinasabi ng iba.

    Same 6 speed tranny. More or less ganyan din ang FC kung aggressive driving uphill. Para hindi mabitin sa torque.

    Turbocharging will be done on September. Humahanap pa kami ng parts. We have to replace the MAF sensor, injectors, intake and full exhaust. Guaranteed +100WHP, not sure about the torque. Expected cost is around 300K. Sure ako kakabugin nito yung R-eVGT.

    BTW, di ako yung nag-drive nung Theta II uphill. I'm driving my own Tucson R-eVGT LMX20. Kwentuhan lang kami after nung trip, di kasi masyado nag-popost dito yung nag-drive eh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GTi View Post
    Ano ba yan, pati ang Gen 1 hindi mahabol-habol sa akyatan? Ano ba ang average speed mo sa Kennon? Baka naman yung tipong 70-90km/h more or less? But still... 3.2km/L?!

    Same gearbox lang ba ang Sportage and Tucson? So 3.2km/L din siya sa Kennon Road?

    So what happened after the turbocharging? Did you have to change other components? How much did the hp and torque improve according to dyno results?
    bro, malakas talaga sa akyatan ang gen 1 na tucs CRDi (mine) tested ko na a couple of times sa baguio, sagada ay bicol route since i bought it last 09. sa gen 2 mas kabisado ni bro SG yan

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    #27
    Haha~ Kaya nga forum eh diba? Ano pa ba ginagawa dito kundi magkwentuhan?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GTi View Post
    Haha~ Kaya nga forum eh diba? Ano pa ba ginagawa dito kundi magkwentuhan?
    Kwento ok lang, pero Q&A portion mahirap

    Agree with bro reactor. Hindi dahil 112HP ang gen 1 CRDi ibig sabihin mahina na sila. Tandaan huwag maliitin ang Hyundai diesels, kahit pa hindi R-eVGT yan.

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    Hahaha~ ang kwento naman may tanong at sagot din. :rofl: Agree about the Hyundai diesels. Since sa speed na yan, midrange grunt ang kailangan, at yun ang meron sa diesels. Pero ang hirap maka-imagine na naghihirap ang Sportage/Tucson Theta II at inoovertake lang ng mga 1st gen Tucson kapag wala ka diyan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GTi View Post
    Pero ang hirap maka-imagine na naghihirap ang Sportage/Tucson Theta II at inoovertake lang ng mga 1st gen Tucson kapag wala ka diyan.
    Uulitin ko hindi naman ako may dala nung Theta II. R-eVGT yung karga ko nung Baguio kaya easy-easy lang kami pero pinili ko sa banda likod.



    The Theta II was in front of me. Yun nasa harap nya R-eVGT Premium din (like mine)

    OT na tayo Sportage vs Elantra thread ito, kung gusto mo ituloy welcome ka sa Tucson thread. Quote mo nalang itong message papunta dun.

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