Hyundai Getz 1.4 GL M/T vs 1.5 CRDi M/T

**niky** · August 3rd, 2006 04:38 PM

IMHO, the extra you pay for the CRDi, you're not paying for diesel frugality. You're paying it for the extra power.

Taken in that light, it's not a bad idea.

RE: Fuel consumption: Doesn't make sense comparing the 1.4 gas to the 1.5CRDI, it's possibly 12 on one side and 14+ on the other in traffic, you shorten the ROI time to five or seven years maybe... but then, if you really want to be frugal, get the 1.1 gas version, which will get equal mileage in traffic... with the penalty of sluggish acceleration.

Now, if Hyundai released a 1.1 Diesel here (non-turbo), that 110,000 premium would be probably 20,000 or so only. The reason the premium is so large is that the 1.5 CRDi is a relatively high-tech and high performance diesel and the variable geometry turbo attached to it. That turbo is what gives it the gas-like performance and lack of turbo lag. By itself, it's probably horribly expensive... the only other VGT systems I know of are on expensive European sports cars.

**Horsepower** · August 5th, 2006 06:07 PM

may 30K cash discount ngayon sa mga bibili ng Getz CRDi Turbo :-)

**slipstreamer** · August 7th, 2006 01:01 PM

Originally Posted by userfriendly

Kung ganito eh hindi sulit yung CRDi dahil mas mahal siya ng 110,000 pesos.
So 110,000 / 650 / 12 months per year = 14.10 years ROI. Kahit sabihin mo na na kahalati lang nung 14 years ang ROI dahil masmatipid yung CRDi at other factors, hindi pa rin sulit. Ito ay kung cash purchase eh kung financing dagdag interest pa. Mas lalong nagmahal yung crdi.

Good point Userfriendly and Otep. Ngayon nag baba ng P30k ang Getz crdi P598,000 nalang sya. So lets compute a more realistic FC for Getz 1.4 and crdi given 1,000 km 1 month distance covered.
Getz 1.4l (12km/liter)
monthly consumption in liters = 1,000km / 12km per liter = 83.3 liters
mo. consumption in Pesos = 83.3 li x P43.75 = P3,645
Getz crdi (15km/liter)
monthly consumption in liters = 1,000km / 15km per liter = 66.6 liters
mo. consumption in Peso = 66.6 li x P37.25 = P2,483
Monthly cost difference = P1,162
Userfriendly pakicompute naman ROI nitong new figures.

**Blackraven** · August 8th, 2006 01:06 AM

This may be relative/subjective but if you ask me...

When it comes to economy cars, I'd only prefer to take diesel models only (either manual or slush box...in this case, the former is more practical

)

I'd recommend that you get the diesel variant (and take advantage of its Bosch Piezo injectors as well

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**oldblue** · August 8th, 2006 09:10 AM

Originally Posted by slipstreamer

Good point Userfriendly and Otep. Ngayon nag baba ng P30k ang Getz crdi P598,000 nalang sya. So lets compute a more realistic FC for Getz 1.4 and crdi given 1,000 km 1 month distance covered.
Getz 1.4l (12km/liter)
monthly consumption in liters = 1,000km / 12km per liter = 83.3 liters
mo. consumption in Pesos = 83.3 li x P43.75 = P3,645
Getz crdi (15km/liter)
monthly consumption in liters = 1,000km / 15km per liter = 66.6 liters
mo. consumption in Peso = 66.6 li x P37.25 = P2,483
Monthly cost difference = P1,162
Userfriendly pakicompute naman ROI nitong new figures.

seriously! ROI in cars hehehe ngaun ko lang narinig ito. a car is an expense dre. even a commercial vehicle like a for rent van/car, puv/taxi walang ROI yan lalo na kung Philippine road conditions ang factor.

sometimes I cant see the logic why some people invest in public transport.
they spend 1M for a van or 2M for a bus and then rent it out. tapos barya barya nila babawiin ulit yun 1M-2M but that's after operating expense like insurance, driver, gasoline, maintenance, repairs, parts replacement, yearly registration fees, emission tests fees and other govt-related charges. usually people who invest in these ventures dont consider time as a factor. and ROI is time-dependent.

make it simple pre. submit to your desires. if you havent driven a diesel CRDi mini-car before but is itching to try something new, something out of the ordinary, buy the Getz CRDi. The experience and that personal satisfaction to having owned one is what you pay for you.

**niky** · August 8th, 2006 12:42 PM

Just buy it for the power. That's the reason that makes the most sense...

**mojojojo** · August 8th, 2006 09:02 PM

:victory:

Originally Posted by Horsepower

may 30K cash discount ngayon sa mga bibili ng Getz CRDi Turbo :-)

At last, nauntog ang ulo ng Hyundai. :surrender:

They should have realized that what made their sales and name successful the past year or so was because of their value for money cars. This early, they are trying to put a premium price on their cars already!??? An example is the Accent, a good car but at P700k++, one could start to considering a 1.8 Honda Civic. If they price it in the range of the Matrix, then I guess they could have enjoyed a larger share of the car segment like their Getz and Matrix did. This is really a no brainer :doh: I usually wonder where these local car companies get their marketing people; seems that they have a unique taste and mentality about cars and usually out of sync with the buying public (no offense to anybody :victory: ; just airing my piece).

Even though their cars got good reviews and reliability (we own one of these), the perception here is still Korean cars are unreliable and no resale value (this is crap). They should have waited a little longer and sell more of their cars at affordable price until the market is flooded with them before they try to match the prices of Japanese cars :rave:

**niky** · August 9th, 2006 10:13 AM

Originally Posted by mojojojo

Even though their cars got good reviews and reliability (we own one of these), the perception here is still Korean cars are unreliable and no resale value (this is crap). They should have waited a little longer and sell more of their cars at affordable price until the market is flooded with them before they try to match the prices of Japanese cars

That much is true. But remember, the local merchants are handicapped by the fact that their units are CBU, and that the prices and expectations set by the home office don't always come into sync with what the local needs are.

At least Chevrolet is trying (hard) to adapt to local market conditions. Fat lot of good it's doing them, as their backpedalling on content in their models (removal of engine options on Optra and downgrading of Aveo) is showing how uncompetitive they are at a feature to feature standpoint with the Koreans.

My opinion? They should all just open up factories here.