Honda Civic RS Modulo vs. Mazda 3 Speed vs. Everest Trend

[Egan101]

It's the other way around.

I think you're a little confused. 2k lbs is only 1 ton.
CIVIC RS 0-100 takes 11secs. In PH.

A Car that can't beat a pickup is TOO SLOW...

Where did you get those figures for the 0-100kmh sprint of the Civic RS? Most would say the Civic RS Turbo is good for just over 7 seconds while the 1.8L model is around 10 seconds.

By the way, 1 metric ton is 2200+ lbs. Also, the F150 SVT Lightning is not your ordinary Asian pickup or PPV.

[jut703]

It's the other way around.

I think you're a little confused. 2k lbs is only 1 ton.
CIVIC RS 0-100 takes 11secs. In PH.

A Car that can't beat a pickup is TOO SLOW...

F150 SVT Lighting
Curb weight 4670 lbs. / 2.3ton
Cart Iron Engine Block
Hydraulic Power Steering
4speed A/T
Multi-port Seaquential Fuel Injection

As usual, what the hell are you talking about?

The Civic weighs 1300 kg, has 173 hp, and gets to 100 kph in 7ish seconds. Top speed is over 200 kph.

Most PPVs weigh around 2000 kg, have 150-180 hp, and get to 100 kph in 10-12 seconds. Most top out at around 170-180 kph.

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[niky]

It's the other way around.

I think you're a little confused. 2k lbs is only 1 ton.
CIVIC RS 0-100 takes 11secs. In PH.

A Car that can't beat a pickup is TOO SLOW...

F150 SVT Lighting
Curb weight 4670 lbs. / 2.3ton
Cart Iron Engine Block
Hydraulic Power Steering
4speed A/T
Multi-port Seaquential Fuel Injection

The Civic, when I drove it, did 100 km/h in 7.6 seconds. With the AC on and an engine that was heat-soaked. On the drag strip with proper prep, I don't doubt it can do closer to 7 flat.

None of the pick-ups on the local market can get to 100 km/h that fast. Most diesel pickups do 100 km/h in 11-13 seconds. Only the Chevy comes close, at under 10 seconds to 100.

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Also, the SVT Lightning was:

1. Limited edition

2. Couldn't be used for cargo hauling because the SVT variant had less load capacity than a regular F150.

3. Faster than most sports cars, anyway, so it's not a valid comparison.

4. Never officially sold here.

and

5. Expensive. You'd have to have paid around P3m to import one brand new, back in the day... that kind of money could buy you three Civics.

[jut703]

The Civic, when I drove it, did 100 km/h in 7.6 seconds. With the AC on and an engine that was heat-soaked. On the drag strip with proper prep, I don't doubt it can do closer to 7 flat.

None of the pick-ups on the local market can get to 100 km/h that fast. Most diesel pickups do 100 km/h in 11-13 seconds. Only the Chevy comes close, at under 10 seconds to 100.

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Also, the SVT Lightning was:

1. Limited edition

2. Couldn't be used for cargo hauling because the SVT variant had less load capacity than a regular F150.

3. Faster than most sports cars, anyway, so it's not a valid comparison.

4. Never officially sold here.

and

5. Expensive. You'd have to have paid around P3m to import one brand new, back in the day... that kind of money could buy you three Civics.

Niky could you share the vbox 0-100 figures for the Civic 1.8E and the current crop of PPVs?

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[vinj]

The EK SiR did the 0-100 in around 7 seconds too, AFAIR. So realistically, maybe around 8-9 in real world conditions.

If we're talking from a full-stop, the BRZ/86 is actually slower in AT. Probably even in MT. MX-5 is faster. WR-X is much faster. 208 GTi... can't recall whether we've done a 0-100 for that thing. Forester, if I recall, is about as quick... Subaru's CVTs are slow off the line compared to Honda's... from a roll, though, I don't doubt the XT can outpower the Civic.

Niky + Wigo = Fastest

[desertst0rm]

Where did you get those figures for the 0-100kmh sprint of the Civic RS? Most would say the Civic RS Turbo is good for just over 7 seconds while the 1.8L model is around 10 seconds.

Baka naman sa Dyanmometer yan?

2.0 Civic 5A/T Paddle Shift (NOT CVT) is around 11secs. Honda keeps making false claim on their CVT transmission. They said the Clutch type CVT on Jazz is faster than manual because there is no Torque Converter that slips. Then the put a Torque Converter on the Earth Dreams Technology CVT and still claims the same thing.

We went to the dealership and do an actual test. Sinamahan ko lang cousin ko. Siya kasi yung bibili. Sinabi ko na wag muna niya close deal hanggat di nasuusubukan na kaya talaga ng 7secs. Mathematically Impossible dahil napakainit ng ambient temp tapos CVT pa. NAPAKABAGAL ng CVT.. Halos mag overheat na Tranny naka CVTF heater kasi instead of cooler. Saka palagi naman over exaggerated avertised 0-100kph lalo na yung fuel efficiency. Kung 15km/l yung average fuel consumption di dapat lampas pa sa 800km dapat range.

DOE ECO RUN 27.56km/l daw
Honda Cars Philippines' Official Website

Honda City 30km/l on NSLEX???
Honda Cars Philippines' Official Website

Honda Civic 2016 1.5 Turbo 0 to 100 * 31 degrees ambient temp - YouTube

[jut703]

Baka naman sa Dyanmometer yan?

2.0 Civic 5A/T Paddle Shift (NOT CVT) is around 11secs. Honda keeps making false claim on their CVT transmission. They said the Clutch type CVT on Jazz is faster than manual because there is no Torque Converter that slips. Then the put a Torque Converter on the Earth Dreams Technology CVT and still claims the same thing.

We went to the dealership and do an actual test. Sinamahan ko lang cousin ko. Siya kasi yung bibili. Sinabi ko na wag muna niya close deal hanggat di nasuusubukan na kaya talaga ng 7secs. Mathematically Impossible dahil napakainit ng ambient temp tapos CVT pa. NAPAKABAGAL ng CVT.. Halos mag overheat na Tranny naka CVTF heater kasi instead of cooler. Saka palagi naman over exaggerated avertised 0-100kph lalo na yung fuel efficiency. Kung 15km/l yung average fuel consumption di dapat lampas pa sa 800km dapat range.

DOE ECO RUN 27.56km/l daw
Honda Cars Philippines' Official Website

Honda City 30km/l on NSLEX???
Honda Cars Philippines' Official Website

Honda Civic 2016 1.5 Turbo 0 to 100 * 31 degrees ambient temp - YouTube

Dami mo na naman pinagsasabi, eh lahat nga ng tests both local and abroad using GPS instrumentation, nasa 7+ seconds lang talaga 0-100 ng RS.

Mas magaling ka pa sa kanilang lahat? 😂

Konti nalang ibaban na kita kasi paulit-ulit na mali-mali pinagsasabi mo. Pinagpipilitan mo pa. Hanap ka nalang ibang forum na may maniniwala sayo. 😊

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[desertst0rm]

Dami mo na naman pinagsasabi, eh lahat nga ng tests both local and abroad using GPS instrumentation, nasa 7+ seconds lang talaga 0-100 ng RS.

Mas magaling ka pa sa kanilang lahat? ��

Konti nalang ibaban na kita kasi paulit-ulit na mali-mali pinagsasabi mo. Pinagpipilitan mo pa. Hanap ka nalang ibang forum na may maniniwala sayo. ��

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Pupusta ako kahit magkano hindi kaya 7 secs.

Ano GPS na sinasabi mo scantool lang yon?

Magkano ba affilite commission na binabayad ng Honda?

[Egan101]

NAPAKABAGAL ng CVT..

Are you referring to the Civic's CVT or CVT in general? Subaru WRX at Forester XT, parehong CVT pero hindi sila mabagal.

Pupusta ako kahit magkano hindi kaya 7 secs.

Ano GPS na sinasabi mo scantool lang yon?

Magkano ba affilite commission na binabayad ng Honda?

Ano pusta nyo, sir? Baka bigla nyong bawiin. Hehehehe

Most tests show something around 7+ seconds. It is quicker than the Focus 1.5L Ecoboost, Mazda3 SkyActiv 2.0L, Golf/Jetta 1.4L TSI which are all within 8+ seconds. I don't think the test drivers of both Car And Driver and Motortrend are no slouch in terms of testing cars.

216 Honda Civic Sedan 1.5L Turbo Test – Review – Car and Driver

216 Honda Civic First Test Review - Motor Trend

[vinj]

The Civic, when I drove it, did 100 km/h in 7.6 seconds. With the AC on and an engine that was heat-soaked. On the drag strip with proper prep, I don't doubt it can do closer to 7 flat.

None of the pick-ups on the local market can get to 100 km/h that fast. Most diesel pickups do 100 km/h in 11-13 seconds. Only the Chevy comes close, at under 10 seconds to 100.

We went to the dealership and do an actual test. Sinamahan ko lang cousin ko. Siya kasi yung bibili. Sinabi ko na wag muna niya close deal hanggat di nasuusubukan na kaya talaga ng 7secs. Mathematically Impossible dahil napakainit ng ambient temp tapos CVT pa. NAPAKABAGAL ng CVT.. Halos mag overheat na Tranny naka CVTF heater kasi instead of cooler. Saka palagi naman over exaggerated avertised 0-100kph lalo na yung fuel efficiency. Kung 15km/l yung average fuel consumption di dapat lampas pa sa 800km dapat range.

My two cents: Since i have not driven a Civic RS, (nor is acceleration times the sole factor i place in vehicle evaluation), I will put my money on the man who repeatedly test drives cars in local conditions with proper instrumentation for a living, versus someone's dealer test drive with his cousin.