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  1. Join Date
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    #91
    Quote Originally Posted by pup2 View Post
    Ideally dapat meron ka 1 of each, CRDi Turbo Diesel for city drive & brownout, high compression turbo gas for longer drives.

    hehehe. Sup bro!

    *Scharn -- kaw naman pumunta ka pa sa Ford at BMW eh yung high compression at forged piston ng Suba at Mitsu panahon pa ng 'hapon.' hehehe.
    all I'm saying is, diesels really have come a very long way from the clankers of the past. To the point that it was *almost* used in the R8. (and was actually used for an obscure supercar called the iceni)

    and regarding longer drives... as SG's pointed out, the tucson can purr along at a tad bit just above 1k rpm (which will do wonders with fuel economy). and that overtaking with the tucson isn't as difficult as percieved.

    For me, for a long drives, what really matters is the comfort (I've yet to find a car that doesn't make my butt numb after a couple of hours of just sitting). Malas nalang pag may "land train" c/o a slow moving car. And that aforementioned old diesel taught me a good lesson in patience when it comes to overtaking.

    hmmm. if I remember correctly, another thing that was added to the N54 and ecoboost was a CRDi system. Furthermore, to eliminate the turbo lag, the N54 had twinturbos, while the ecoboost used a VGT system (the N55, successor to the N54, has a VGT system too). A sort of marriage between diesel and gasoline technologies.

    another thing: pag brownout... just make sure very well ventilated yung garahe. or better yet, open air. hehe.

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    #92
    Quote Originally Posted by EQAddict View Post
    O/T but Legacy GT Turbo LGT is 5.5 sec 0-100.

    Parang sa C Mag sabi 6.5 eh. Not sure though. Sabagay madami naman factors yun, even weather! Naku, lalong di puwede sa tatay ko yun. Bibili ko pa naman sana siya.

    Anyhoo, surely malaki ang ginanda ng CRDi compared to before. If you look at absolute figures though, sa torque at exhaust ang pinakamalaking improvement. Sa HP malaki na din pero more on % terms.

    Personally, sa HP palagay ko mas malaki pa ang gain from the VGT rather than the CRDi -- not scientific though. Kailangan kasi mag compare ng non-Turbo CRDi at VGT na non-CRDi for that (saan kaya meron nun)?

    Pero for high-comp Turbo gas cars, iba talaga pang out of town, balikan Vigan yakang yaka with no body pains or even mental stress.

    I read pa nga somewhere na ito ang future ng compacts at sub compacts. Lower displacement, high comp turbos para matipid pag walang boost pero pag nag boost, taas HP at torque.

    As you can see, either way, turbo is the way to go!



    BTW, ano na nangyari sa test drive/ride ng TS? kaasar naman ang dalang ng feedback after the threads oh.

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    #93
    oo nga baka nalito na at iba na ang kinuha.. base sa gamit ng XT ko, maguilty ka lang sa FC nya kung na-idle ka sa heavy traffic kasi premium gas yung sinusunog mo pero kung mild traffic lang hindi naman sya ganun katakaw considering the power that it can pull. pansin ko nga masmatipid ako kung mejo hataw than alalay sa tapak ng gas. mabilis bumaba yung FC reading sa dash kung hataw (not more than 3500 rpm ha) regarding sa ride comfort naman, para sakin mas ok sya than honda, mazda and mitsu (yun yung natest drive ko dati) di ko sure ang tucson kaya di ko macompare (though na test ko ang 08 SF ok ang ride mas malambot pa kesa sa accord). My average FC naglalaro sa 6.5 to 7.5 mix city and highway (but mostly city driving). OK na for its performance. Our 05 accord is also consuming about 7 km/l. Ang difference lang is ang price ng XCS at Blaze na kinakarga ko dun sa 2. Siguro yun talaga ang big difference nung 2, diesel vs premium gas..

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    #94
    oo nga baka nalito na at iba na ang kinuha.. base sa gamit ng XT ko, maguilty ka lang sa FC nya kung na-idle ka sa heavy traffic kasi premium gas yung sinusunog mo pero kung mild traffic lang hindi naman sya ganun katakaw considering the power that it can pull. pansin ko nga masmatipid ako kung mejo hataw than alalay sa tapak ng gas. mabilis bumaba yung FC reading sa dash kung hataw (not more than 3500 rpm ha) regarding sa ride comfort naman, para sakin mas ok sya than honda, mazda and mitsu (yun yung natest drive ko dati) di ko sure ang tucson kaya di ko macompare (though na test ko ang 08 SF ok ang ride mas malambot pa kesa sa accord). My average FC naglalaro sa 6.5 to 7.5 mix city and highway (but mostly city driving). OK na for its performance. Our 05 accord is also consuming about 7 km/l. Ang difference lang is ang price ng XCS at Blaze na kinakarga ko dun sa 2. Siguro yun talaga ang big difference nung 2, diesel vs premium gas..

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    #95
    Quote Originally Posted by kupz99 View Post
    oo nga baka nalito na at iba na ang kinuha.. base sa gamit ng XT ko, maguilty ka lang sa FC nya kung na-idle ka sa heavy traffic kasi premium gas yung sinusunog mo pero kung mild traffic lang hindi naman sya ganun katakaw considering the power that it can pull. pansin ko nga masmatipid ako kung mejo hataw than alalay sa tapak ng gas. mabilis bumaba yung FC reading sa dash kung hataw (not more than 3500 rpm ha) regarding sa ride comfort naman, para sakin mas ok sya than honda, mazda and mitsu (yun yung natest drive ko dati) di ko sure ang tucson kaya di ko macompare (though na test ko ang 08 SF ok ang ride mas malambot pa kesa sa accord). My average FC naglalaro sa 6.5 to 7.5 mix city and highway (but mostly city driving). OK na for its performance. Our 05 accord is also consuming about 7 km/l. Ang difference lang is ang price ng XCS at Blaze na kinakarga ko dun sa 2. Siguro yun talaga ang big difference nung 2, diesel vs premium gas..

    Palagay ko baka naka test drive na yun at nakabili na then sibat na. Haay.

    Bro, puwede din ang XCS sa FXT mo. 95 Octane din naman yun at 95 din ang minimum ng XT. Just dont expect the same performance or FC.

    Pero ang tipid ng CRDi malaki pa din at di lang sa price. Yung TDCi ko kasi kahit hatawin ko mahigit 10 km/lit. I can only reach that in my dreams in the FXT.

    This is why CRDi is ideal for endurance races like Le Mans. It's like my FXT and Focus TDCi having a race to Pagudpod without rest stops. Sure my FXT will go ahead -- but it will have to stop for gas so many more times there's no chance for it to win.

    But some people prefer to have rest stops in actual driving.

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    #96
    Some notes:

    The Legacy GT's acceleration might be 5.5 with the manual. I believe the variant we have locally is the automatic, and that's the one rated at 6.5.

    Torque is what matters for acceleration. However, the really, really really important number is torque at the wheels. Which means torque multiplied by gearing. Which is why, overall, cars with more horsepower are faster... because more horsepower indicates more torque at higher rpm... which means you can stay in lower gears much longer... which means more wheel torque more of the time (even though a turbodiesel usually has much higher peak acceleration, it can't maintain it as long as a turbo-gasser)... which means much much better acceleration.
    Last edited by niky; April 30th, 2010 at 06:52 PM.

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    #97
    guys, sorry wala pa good news, nahihirapan pa magdecide dad ko kasi nagustuhan niya rin tucson pero mas gusto niya talaga xt, sorry nahiya rin ako kasi medyo matagal magdecide

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    #98
    don't sweat it .. your money .. take all the time that you need ..

    naalala ko .. inabutan ata ako ng buwan na pinagisipan kung crv, montero o fortuner ang bibilhin ko .. tapos sabi ni misis alam naman niya na FXT talaga gusto ko kahit least practical ..

    so yon .. FXT ..

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    #99
    Quote Originally Posted by mrpink View Post
    don't sweat it .. your money .. take all the time that you need ..

    naalala ko .. inabutan ata ako ng buwan na pinagisipan kung crv, montero o fortuner ang bibilhin ko .. tapos sabi ni misis alam naman niya na FXT talaga gusto ko kahit least practical ..

    so yon .. FXT ..
    Ah Forester XT din ang napili nyo!

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    #100
    Quote Originally Posted by ralphgo3 View Post
    guys, sorry wala pa good news, nahihirapan pa magdecide dad ko kasi nagustuhan niya rin tucson pero mas gusto niya talaga xt, sorry nahiya rin ako kasi medyo matagal magdecide
    Mas gusto naman pala niya yung FXT eh. Pinatatagal nyo pa. Hindi ko babaguhin yung vote ko for FXT.

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