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    #41
    Agree with most of the replies above. Being quick with a powerful engine does not necessarily mean its fun to drive. But being fun to drive is subjective to the driver/TS.

    I suggest give those suggested cars a test drive. Don't be afraid to Rev hard the test cars since it will be one of the basis of your purchase choice.

    Test drive the Fiesta , Jazz , Mazda 2 and Accent.

    But if you don't mind a second hand car. There are a lot more options with more power and better fun to drive factors.

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    #42
    Quote Originally Posted by ice15 View Post
    There's always a few exceptions but I was basing my comment in general...

    i believe those exceptions include the miata and the forester for suvs

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    #43
    ^

    Miata + supercharger =

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    #44
    Just want to correct a notion. Numbers between diesels, NA gas engines and turbo gas engines are deceptive.

    Diesels dont have a flat torque curve. They dump all their torque at 2-3k rpm then it rapidly goes down from there. Same for their hp. Thats why diesels rapidly lose steam at 3.5k and above rpm and their red line doesnt even hit 5k rpm. No fun at higher rpms.

    The power and torque curve for a NA(naturally aspirated) gas engine is different. The torque rises from idle to about 4.5k-5k peak torque. Hp rises from idle as well and matches the torque peak. Hence you feel (and actually do) get more power at higher rpms where the "fun" is. Most fun at high rpms but you have to find a way to keep the engine in that rpm range or powerband. Loved by purists.

    A turbo gas engine is even better if you like the feel of "torque shoving you into your seat." Good turbo gas engines have a FLAT torque curve that hit their peak below 2k rpm and stay flat till about 5k rpm. Hp will rise from idle all the way to right before red line. These engines give the best "shove" but they have lower redlines that NA gas engines and dont sound as good though. But they easily make the most HP per liter of displacement and are easier to tune.



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    #45
    M2 is the poor man's miata!

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    #46
    Stock M2 ran circles around lightened competition in the Phil Endurance Challenge....
    http://www.topgear.com.ph/news/racin...00013-20161222

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    #47
    Jazz vs M2, head vs heart....
    http://www.topgear.com.ph/drives/big...rticle_related...

    TGP went heart.

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    #48
    Naka pili na ba si TS?

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    #49
    Quote Originally Posted by Egan101 View Post
    Naka pili na ba si TS?
    Yes, I decided to go for the Jazz VX.

    The Mirage will be up for sale soon. Any takers?


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    #50
    Quote Originally Posted by robbie26 View Post
    Yes, I decided to go for the Jazz VX.

    The Mirage will be up for sale soon. Any takers?


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    congrats....pakisakay one time

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