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    The Kia Grand Carnival is actually selling well ... and there's a market for the leather seat upgrade ...

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    i don't get the joke.
    pls explain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    i don't get the joke.
    pls explain.
    napa leather Car Sales Data (2018)

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    Quote Originally Posted by StockEngine View Post
    napa leather Car Sales Data (2018)

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    i still do not get it, sir.
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    Maybe because the article says you would have to pay php350,000 Just for the leather seat upgrade! 😱🤑
    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    i don't get the joke.
    pls explain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shutterbug View Post
    Maybe because the article says you would have to pay php350,000 Just for the leather seat upgrade! 😱🤑
    ah well.
    i am sure somebodies out there can easily afford...

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    Pahirapan kumuha ng Alphard ngayon - approx wait is at least 6 months, even harder than an LC200. So the Alphard-buying market spills over to the Carnival. I personally know 2 people who recently bought Carnivals because they couldn't wait for the Alphard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jut703 View Post
    Pahirapan kumuha ng Alphard ngayon - approx wait is at least 6 months, even harder than an LC200. So the Alphard-buying market spills over to the Carnival. I personally know 2 people who recently bought Carnivals because they couldn't wait for the Alphard.

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    At the Alphard/LC200 price level I'd also look at the V220.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wh1stl3r View Post
    At the Alphard/LC200 price level I'd also look at the V220.
    True. 4.4M for the V220 vs 4.2M market price of the Alphard (vs 3.6M SRP).

    The V220 will be cheaper to run because diesel, but the Alphard will still have lower maintenance costs and higher resale value.

    Surprisingly, Toyota really has a strong hold of the high end market with the LC and Alphard, and looking at the sales numbers, many of the moneyed prefer to buy these over the "premium" Euro brands.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jut703 View Post
    True. 4.4M for the V220 vs 4.2M market price of the Alphard (vs 3.6M SRP).

    The V220 will be cheaper to run because diesel, but the Alphard will still have lower maintenance costs and higher resale value.

    Surprisingly, Toyota really has a strong hold of the high end market with the LC and Alphard, and looking at the sales numbers, many of the moneyed prefer to buy these over the "premium" Euro brands.

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    Am surprised with that as well. I guess reliability, durability and resale value are still still factors that take the front seat even at that level.

    But at some point those guys are probably gonna get bored of the same old thing and take the plunge and get something else.
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