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    #51
    Quote Originally Posted by M54 Powered View Post
    i have. the japanese turbo fours will put a wide grin on your face when they spool up and kick in....but the big pushrod will put a wide grin on your face and make you **** your pants all at the same time
    Yup, no turbo lag to worry about and enough torque to melt your tires.

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    #52
    Quote Originally Posted by redorange View Post
    The 6L engine is still derived from the 350ci motor and is a evolution of it, so it isn't an entirely different engine.
    The Gen IV 6.0 liter LS2 was derived from the Gen III 5.7 liter LS1 V8 which was introduced in the later half of the 90's.

    The 5.7 liter(346 cu in) aluminum Gen III V8 was an all-new design.
    The old small-block 350 that came before it was cast iron.

    There are rumors that GM plans to enlarge the 400hp 6.0 liter V8 to 6.2 liters for the updated Corvette and all-new Camaro. Estimated output.... 450hp.
    Last edited by AG4; November 4th, 2006 at 02:21 PM.

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    #53
    So in real life who will win, a stock skyline vs a stock corvette if ang track is for example suzuka circuit tapos 12 hrs race. Tapos include nyo rin yung reliability,power,handling etc.

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    #54
    Quote Originally Posted by redorange View Post
    *gasjunkie-The Cobalt uses a DOHC engine called a ECOTEC not a OHV engine. BTW in compact car drag racing that GM engine has been out performing the Honda's and Toyota's for the past 2 years.




    I know. (about ecotec)







    :fly:


    Edit not really into stoplight racing. :spider:


    Edit2 I hear italian muscle get laid more


    Edit3 proof is in the profit.


    Edit4 the " " had a purpose on my original post.
    Last edited by GasJunkie; November 7th, 2006 at 01:54 PM.

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    #55
    Quote Originally Posted by oliver1013 View Post
    So in real life who will win, a stock skyline vs a stock corvette if ang track is for example suzuka circuit tapos 12 hrs race. Tapos include nyo rin yung reliability,power,handling etc.
    Depends on the track, depends on the version of Skyline and Corvette.

    I'll assume this is the last of the GTRs we're talking aboutl, an R34 GTR... if we're talking stock, then I guess the Nur edition or any of the other specials with big brakes or uprated engines are out.

    As for the Corvette, which one? The regular Vette or the high powered one? Considering the high asking price of the GTR, maybe the Z06? The Z06 was around 50k $ when it came out, and the Skyline was last sold in that year, at around the equivalent of 50k $ in Japan for the "regular" (non-special edition) GTR.

    The regular GTR will get to 100 km/h in just over 5 seconds. The Z06 will do it in around 4.

    The Z06 might be a little softer around turns, allowing the GTR to keep up, but it's no slouch... the regular C5 Vette is around 8:10 around the Nurburgring (a long technical course, good combination of sweeping high speed turns, elevation changes and bumpy slow speed ones), while the current 400hp C6 Vette, with performance similar to the old C5 Z06, is a sub-8 minute ring car. The R34 is faster around the Nurburgring, BUT it's rumored that that car was chipped and de-limited.

    And there's the rub. A stock GTR would absolutely kill the old Vette through the midfield, only to run smack into the speed limiter down the back straight and through 130R, allowing the unrestricted, 170+ mph capable Vette to cruise past. :hihihi:

    Back to handling, the GTR would definitely handle better, as there's a little too much compliance in the rear end of the Corvette. That softness is there, though, to give it great traction out of corners and in drag races, and the Corvette is a relatively good handler as far as American cars go (though the Viper and the new Vette are much much better).

    In an endurance race, though, I'm not sure how each car would cope with the heat. The Vette is a legendary enduro racer, but the C5R is a heavily modified car compared to the Z06 (there are reports of auxiliary and belt problems on the road car if you subject it to track abuse), and the GTR is a very heavy vehicle, prone to eating up brakes and tires over a few laps (the GTR's best lap in a time attack is reportedly its first lap... heck, even Initial D fanboys know about the poor endurance of GTR brakes... ).

    But if neither car broke down, the Vette would win over a long race. If the Skyline was speed de-limited, it might win in a short race.
    Last edited by niky; November 7th, 2006 at 05:19 PM.

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    #56
    Yoooon!! How bout kung 350Z vs vette?

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    #57
    Torque is really abundant on american engines, but the lack of peak power on most of their engines kill the momentum when reaching the point of rpm extinction.

    On the other hand, the Japanese figured out how to give you thrill when you're on the cheap. Linear power ramp, but it gets steeper when the second profile cam kicks in.

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    #58
    Quote Originally Posted by oliver1013 View Post
    Yoooon!! How bout kung 350Z vs vette?
    stock vs stock. are you serious? :lol:

    and for comparison's sake, here is a list of the best lap times at the nurburgring

    7:28 --- Porsche Carrera GT, Walther Röhrl, Autobild July 2004
    7:32.4 -- Porsche Carrera GT, definitive time by Horst Von Saurma
    7:32.5 - Gemballa Porsche GTR 600 EVO, Wolfgang Kaufmann (2001)
    7:36 --- Porsche Carrera GT, factory test driver Walther Röhrl (2002)
    7:40* -- Porsche Carrera GT, *estimated time on cold and partially wet track (2003)
    7:40* -- 161.217 km/h – Corvette Z06, 505 PS/ 1419.7 kg (estimated), Jan Magnusen
    7:40 --- Mercedes Benz McLaren SLR, Klaus Ludwig, Autobild July 2004
    7:42 --- Radical 1500 SR3 (2002)
    7:43 --- TechArt GT Street (2001)
    7:43 --- Porsche 996 911 GT3 RS, factory test driver Walter Rohrl, MOTOR Magazine
    7:43.5 - Lamborghini Murcielago (Autocar magazine, 2002)
    7:44 --- Pagani Zonda C12S (07/2003)
    7:45 --- Gemballa Porsche GTR 600 (12/2000)
    7:46 --- Porsche 996 GT2
    7:46 --- SHK Porsche 993 GT2, 652 PS (1999)
    7:47 --- Porsche 996 GT3 RS, 381PS (996) (2004)
    7:49 --- Porsche 996 GT3 Cup
    7:50 --- BMW E46 M3 CSL (08/2003)
    7:50 --- Blitz Supra, 750 PS, Herbert Schürg (1997)
    7:50 --- Honda RC30, Helmut Daehne (1993)
    7:50 --- Lamborghini Murcielago (06/2002)
    7:52 --- Gemballa Porsche 911 Le Mans (1995)
    7:52 --- Lamborghini Gallardo E-Gear (12/2003)
    7:52 --- Mercedes Benz SLR McLaren (06/2004)
    7:54 --- Porsche GT3 (996) (2003)
    7:55 --- Caterham R500 Superlight (2002)
    7:56 --- Ferrari 360 Challenge Stradale (02/2004)
    7:56 --- Porsche 996 Turbo
    7:56 --- Honda NSX-R - Motoharu Kurosawa, Best MOTORing
    7:56 --- Chevrolet Corvette CE Z06 (this is a C5-Z06)

    not in the list, but worthy of mentioning,
    A 2005 C6 with a Z51 suspension package (optional equipment) turned the 'Ring in 7:59!
    Last edited by n2knee; November 8th, 2006 at 06:21 AM.

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    #59
    lol re: corvette vs skyline vs 350z.

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    #60
    :bwahaha: how about a vette vs. an SIR? i bet it would be close

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