2nd hand SUV/AUV

[renzo_d10]

Yes indeed, the Carnival is more refined, more comfortable and more powerful than the Starex. I'm not sure if the issue with the Carnival's A/T is blown up out of proportion but I believe its best to stick with M/T to be sure. Besides, A/T Carnivals are known for having poor fuel mileage. As for safety, be rest assured as the Carnival gets 5 star ratings from the US NHTSA. But be sure to get a well maintained unit and have it extensively checked by a skilled mechanic.

Yes, the Matrix is also a good choice. It shares the same engine as the daredevil Accent CRDi cabs which goes without saying that its even faster and thriftier than the Carnival though it is of course less practical due to being only able to seat five people. And yes the lack of safety features may be a turnoff for some (but not for me). The body size is rather queer though, the length is shorter than the average subcompact sedan but the width and height is similar to that of MPVs.

+1 sa Carnival M/T

Manual = Less maintenance.

And I woudn't really buy a 2nd hand A/T car `cause most of the time, we're not sure how was it used .. or rather, abused.

Point out ko lang rin. Although the Accent looks small from the outside, better check & sit inside. It's quite big. Well at least ... bigger than what should be expected by just looking at the overall size of the car.

[Gecko Guy]

Get a 2nd hand Everest -- built tough and safe na safe ka.

[GTi]

Get a 2nd hand Everest -- built tough and safe na safe ka.

Good car, but I don't think we'll be able to find the TS one that costs just 400k...

[scharnhorst]

medyo hindi maganda yung door hinges ng isuzu crosswind... lumalawlaw after several years

just a note since the TS is gunning for a 2ndhand vehicle with lots of miles on it

[Gecko Guy]

Good car, but I don't think we'll be able to find the TS one that costs just 400k...

Yun nga lang
For that budget I'll go with the Carnival then...sarap ng ride at ang luwag pa

[gmgsport]

I just would like to know from your point of view guys, which would you prefer?japanese or korean made vehicles be it an SUV/AUV?a lot of korean made vehicles are recently making it in the market today. they have high-tech & more powerful crdi engines with more safety & comfort features.no question about the speed & power of the engine but when it comes to reliability will they surpass those japanese brands.how far would they go?how about the re-sale value?

[GTi]

If what you mean are brand new Korean vehicles then yes, I would prefer the Korean. Many Japanese vehicles that are here in our country are not actually even sold in Japan or most first world countries. The aforementioned cars are mostly made in Thailand and engineered for the third world market. And so these are obviously of lesser status and more unrefined as compared to the Korean vehicles sold here of which most if not all are sold internationally and conform to the highest safety, comfort and luxury standards of the most scrutinizing markets. Nowadays, Korean cars have very high resale values as well, at par with or even higher than those of its Japanese rivals. As for reliability, we would still have to see about that as the Koreans have only started improving not so long ago, but if you check out the first generation Starex CRDi's you'll see that many have already piled up lots of kilometers on the clock which should say quite a lot about its reliability.

[eljo3025]

+1 sa Carnival M/T

Manual = Less maintenance.

And I woudn't really buy a 2nd hand A/T car `cause most of the time, we're not sure how was it used .. or rather, abused.

Point out ko lang rin. Although the Accent looks small from the outside, better check & sit inside. It's quite big. Well at least ... bigger than what should be expected by just looking at the overall size of the car.

Accent na naman? 2nd HAND SUV/AUV ang thread. Ang accent ba ay 2nd hand at AUV ba o SUV?

Fanboy. Sheesh

I just would like to know from your point of view guys, which would you prefer?japanese or korean made vehicles be it an SUV/AUV?a lot of korean made vehicles are recently making it in the market today. they have high-tech & more powerful crdi engines with more safety & comfort features.no question about the speed & power of the engine but when it comes to reliability will they surpass those japanese brands.how far would they go?how about the re-sale value?

Kung mga 2007 model na Hyundai pataas except sa Starex na kahit 1999 basta Turbo Intercooler pwede pang 2nd hand.

Pero kung Kia in early 2000s? Medyo pinagtatawanan pa rin Kia noon ng mga Pinoys IMHO.

[Wh1stl3r]

Yup, problem with 2nd hand a/t cars is if the owner didn't change the atf regularly. But at least if they have a good service record at the casa you can tell if they did. Same with turbo cars, we had a 2nd hand Trooper once, had to get the turbo rebuilt as we didn't feel like spending so much on a new turbo for a relatively older car. You can't tell if the previous owner was in the habit of turning the engine off while the turbo was still hot.

[grcr4mms]

What about Mazda MPV 2001 local, diesel, M/T, 7-seater vs. Kia Sedona/Carnival 2001 diesel, M/T, 7-seater? Sorry, this thread should have been "2nd hand SUV/AUV/MPV". I believe the MPV is truck based and the Carnival is car based? I have not seen both actually but in terms of look, I prefer the Carnival. Is the Carnival longer and wider?

[grcr4mms]

Get a 2nd hand Everest -- built tough and safe na safe ka.

I've seen Ford Everest and it seems to be a good choice except that the cheapest I can probably find is more than 500K which is out of my budget.

[grcr4mms]

Good car, but I don't think we'll be able to find the TS one that costs just 400k...

Sorry, what does TS mean?

[dinJ]

[QUOTE=eljo3025;1736594]Accent na naman? 2nd HAND SUV/AUV ang thread. Ang accent ba ay 2nd hand at AUV ba o SUV?

Fanboy. Sheesh


haha! oo nga naman.

Sa TS,
You could also consider the Suzuki APV. With your budget of 400k, modelo na mabibili mo. Hindi pa masyado pagawain.

[fabilioh]

What about Mazda MPV 2001 local, diesel, M/T, 7-seater vs. Kia Sedona/Carnival 2001 diesel, M/T, 7-seater? Sorry, this thread should have been "2nd hand SUV/AUV/MPV". I believe the MPV is truck based and the Carnival is car based? I have not seen both actually but in terms of look, I prefer the Carnival. Is the Carnival longer and wider?

The MPV is a good buy. Though parts may be more expensive than its other Jap counterparts, once replaced will be just as reliable. The MPV is based on the Mazda 929 platform in the US, so ride is more car- like, while the engine is the same one used by the 1st gen Ranger and Everest, so parts would not be a problem.

HTH

[grcr4mms]

Yes indeed, the Carnival is more refined, more comfortable and more powerful than the Starex. I'm not sure if the issue with the Carnival's A/T is blown up out of proportion but I believe its best to stick with M/T to be sure. Besides, A/T Carnivals are known for having poor fuel mileage. As for safety, be rest assured as the Carnival gets 5 star ratings from the US NHTSA. But be sure to get a well maintained unit and have it extensively checked by a skilled mechanic.

Yes, the Matrix is also a good choice. It shares the same engine as the daredevil Accent CRDi cabs which goes without saying that its even faster and thriftier than the Carnival though it is of course less practical due to being only able to seat five people. And yes the lack of safety features may be a turnoff for some (but not for me). The body size is rather queer though, the length is shorter than the average subcompact sedan but the width and height is similar to that of MPVs.

If I find the Carnival too big and hard to maneuver (too much hassle turning and parking), I'd probably go for the Matrix since I have no problem of it seating only 5 people, and it's as you say thriftier (faster is not an issue for me).

[grcr4mms]

[quote=dinJ;1739579]

Accent na naman? 2nd HAND SUV/AUV ang thread. Ang accent ba ay 2nd hand at AUV ba o SUV?

Fanboy. Sheesh


haha! oo nga naman.

Sa TS,
You could also consider the Suzuki APV. With your budget of 400k, modelo na mabibili mo. Hindi pa masyado pagawain.

I don't like the APV since 1) I don't like the looks, 2) parang madaling bumaliktad, and 3) I believe vehicles marketed internationally (especially european) over-all have better quality (in terms of safety, durability, etc) than those marketed solely in our country/SEA countries. Same reason I don't like the Avanza.

[GTi]

If I find the Carnival too big and hard to maneuver (too much hassle turning and parking), I'd probably go for the Matrix since I have no problem of it seating only 5 people, and it's as you say thriftier (faster is not an issue for me).

Well if a five seater is enough for you and also if the lack of safety features like airbags and ABS doesn't concern you (like me), and also if its weird looking shape is fine with you, then take it. It is a thrifty and fast vehicle after all.

I'm against the APV too, the engine is too weak for both the engine's size and the whole car's size. Cmon! 91hp from a 1.6L engine?! And a 1.6L engine in an 8 seater vehicle?! Its completely lacking in both power AND fuel efficiency.

Oh, and TS means thread starter.

[Ry_Tower]

Sorry, what does TS mean?

NP, thread starter bro.

[asb75]

If your looking for a 2nd hand AUV/SUV, be very careful when buying, need to do some history check. A lot of vehicles are being flooded during "Ondoy" so you don't know if they are service properly after the incident. in reality "What you buy is what you get".

[hondaboot]

While reading on car safety issues, I just came across this 2003 study:
Are SUVs safer than cars?

http://eetd.lbl.gov/ea/teepa/pdf/TRB_Safety_1-03.pdf


Summary of Findings
•Average midsize and large cars have same risk to drivers as average
SUV
•Safest subcompact and compact cars have same risk to driver as
average SUV
•Pickups and SUVs (and minivans) impose high risks on other drivers
because of their incompatibility with cars
•Average subcompact and compact cars have similar combined risk
as average SUV
•Driver behavior influences what we call risk
—low risk to drivers of minivans and high risk to drivers of sports
cars
•Driver *** and age do not appear to influence our main findings by
vehicle model
•However, other driver characteristics or environmental conditions
(rather than vehicle design) may explain some of our findings
•Quality of vehicle design appears to be a better predictor of risk than
vehicle weight

sa amerika yan, ibahin kasi dito.

dito it's ok to drive suv's sa manila traffic coz kalaban mo mga jeepney, tricycle, taxi, fx. syempre mas masikip dapat mas malaki para mas safe sa banggain kahit close proximity