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October 29th, 2015 11:04 AM #11
For the Fiesta, make sure to check its maintenance history. The 2011-2012 Sport models (including early 2013 models which were manufactured in late 2012) has common issues with its transmission. Though not all are impacted but there might be a possibility of TCM failure. In terms of driving dynamics and responsiveness, the Fiesta trumps both Jazz and Vios.
If going for the Jazz, go for the 1.5L models. The 1.3L AT is slow and sluggish, not to mention less fuel efficient than the 1.5L model.
For 400k, try to find a late model Civic FD (2009-2011) or Altis of the same age. A compact is a better choice for the same amount of money.
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October 29th, 2015 11:49 AM #12
Prefer the Jazz... fuel economy suffers due to the 5AT compared to the older CVT, but it's relatively bulletproof and very easy to drive.
You do pay more upfront, but depreciation is slow for that car, so you have the option of reselling it later on at only a slight loss compared to the Fiesta or Vios, which are still on the higher end of their depreciation curves (being newer).
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October 29th, 2015 09:14 PM #13
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October 29th, 2015 09:27 PM #14What's TCM failure? Maybe I'll cross this one out because of the fear in those transmission problem.
For the Jazz, not sure but why is the 1.5L better in terms of fuel efficiency? Maybe I'll also try to make a quick research on this model.
Civic / Altis, not for now. Yes, it's better than my initial choices but my daughter might have a hard time in squeezing it in heavy traffic and might have difficulty in parking in tight spaces. Maybe after her first ride. Thanks
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October 29th, 2015 09:27 PM #15What's TCM failure? Maybe I'll cross this one out because of the fear in those transmission problem.
For the Jazz, not sure but why is the 1.5L better in terms of fuel efficiency? Maybe I'll also try to make a quick research on this model.
Civic / Altis, not for now. Yes, it's better than my initial choices but my daughter might have a hard time in squeezing it in heavy traffic and might have difficulty in parking in tight spaces. Maybe after her first ride. Thanks
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October 29th, 2015 09:33 PM #16
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October 29th, 2015 09:33 PM #17
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October 29th, 2015 09:46 PM #18Any feedback or idea about the Chevrolet Sonic? I've seen a 2013 model that's also within my price range.
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October 30th, 2015 11:27 AM #19
Some Fiestas of that era has problems with their TCM (transmission control module). Ford did extend the warranty period for such models (up to 150k km). Not all models are impacted so if you're really going for it, check the maintenance history and talk to the owner about his experience with the car. The Fiesta has one solid chassis. The suspension of the Sport model is on the stiff side but it's handling is quite good. Ford has updated the TCM with the newer models but the stigma of such failures really has put Ford down in terms of perceived reliability.
For the Jazz, the 1.5L models offer better power-to-weight ratio over the 1.3L models. The 1.3L engine is a bit strained to push the same weight thus forcing it to be revved higher to attain the same driving dynamics as the 1.5L model. The same FC concerns apply with the City of the same era. Our observation with our 2009 City 1.5L AT and Jazz 1.3L AT is that the difference is around 1-2 km/L. Our 1.5L City averages 9-10 km/L on city routes while the Jazz 1.3L does around 8-9 km/L.
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