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November 9th, 2006 07:32 PM #81
Abusive:
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Errh... calling me arrogant, old, illiterate (nothing wrong with being old, though... ) "feeling superior" and stupid.
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It's okay to post your opinions, but it's also in the rules and regulations that you must respect the opinions of others. And apparently, you don't.
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November 9th, 2006 07:43 PM #82[SIZE=2]okay, here guys, i applogize, and i hope everything is okay with u, i pray that u dont go ballistic on me. im not a riceboy, nor richboy, im here to debate with camry and bmw./
and really, i hope u did had a good laugh with the "Rota thing" if not, well im stupid
PS:why do u have to compare bmw and camry. its alright if its Camry VS. Revo etc. but pls. not german cars.
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November 9th, 2006 07:57 PM #84
guys,
settle down please, this is just a simple comparo of sedans built by a japanese and german, asian and european manufacturer. german technology could be advance in some manner but the japanese are really catch up or in some aspect maybe at par with their european counterparts.
forgive me if i sound sarcastic, but why a camry and a bmw not a camry and a revo. this is a comparo between two sedans. let's put the record straight, a revo is an asian utility vehicle not a sedan. i haven't seen a comparo made between an suv and a sedan or a station wagon against a sports car, much more between a sedan and an auv.
let's get on with the discussion.
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November 9th, 2006 10:08 PM #85
BMW 330i has 258PS(255hp). Of course the BMW is RWD while the Camry V6 is FWD(torque steer, understeers).
Camry V6 is P110K more...
Because of AFTA(ASEAN Free Trade Area), the Thai built Camry is cheaper to import than the Euro luxury cars.
Originally Posted by niky
BMW 320i
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Camry V6
Personal car that I would drive? I'd probably go for the more agile RWD 320i...
When Toyota decided to make a BMW 3-series fighter, they ended up with a car that costs almost the same as the equivalent 3-series, the Lexus IS.
A base IS250 for example costs more than a top of the line Camry 3.5.Last edited by AG4; November 9th, 2006 at 10:14 PM.
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November 9th, 2006 10:14 PM #86
kung tutuusin, dapat camry vs bmw 5...same level.
cost lang talaga ang basis dito.
ko, kung u'll end up sa 316i, sa camry nalang ako, practical ako,noh! not brand specific...
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November 9th, 2006 11:21 PM #88
I was only talking about driving those cars, which has nothing to do with other factors like interior features and whatever sophistication. By the way, I tested a 1st gen A4 1.8T Tiptronic and an Altis 1.6E A/T. Obviously, the Audi wins in looks, interior quality, features and anything to do with luxury. But in such cars with much higher prices, what counts is the driving excitement. As I said earlier, it's just not something to write home about. True, it's a solid car to sit in, but then again, the ride is rock-solid as well. It's also FWD so not much drivetrain advantage over the usual Jap despite better chassis dynamics. Sure, it will handle better than the Altis, but it's no RWD German. And with all that change, you have more than enough to make the Toyota handle much better. Overall, driving the A4 is below my expectations; certainly not worth nearly 2 million (back then).
Maybe if you're lucky enough to drive newer A4s, you might want to share your thoughts. I've only gone as much as reading about them, but the verdict is that they're still not as pleasurable as BMWs. And if you read my opinion the so-called lowly 316i 8-valver, it's a completely different experience. I would have bought my friend's if I had the dough, and at that time, it cost twice as much as the faster Corolla. But with such great fun, a hefty sum is almost justifiable.
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November 9th, 2006 11:36 PM #89
i understand and i wasn't challenging you at all. if audi didn't convince you that they justify the price premium they charge over toyota, then that's their loss. i also made an incorrect assumption that you were talking about a Quattro A4. my bad
in my own opinion, i do see the difference in driving dynamics, particularly with Quattro. my first new car was a 93 Corolla, and i've had pretty good seat time in the '97 - '00 A4's, back when i had an Audi dealer as a client. to make a long story short, i feel the Quattro's are more solid and more "planted" on the ground. FWD will be a different story though.
since you asked, i actually got a new ('06) A4 Avant for a few hours as a test drive when i was shopping for a car last year. it had the 3.0 V6, so it should have been comparable in power to my 330ci. but i have to say that the bimmer had a smoother, "better" power delivery, and the driving dynamics were not even close...even with awd vs rwd. so i will agree that the bmw still offers much better driving pleasure (i ended up not buying the A4 btw)
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November 10th, 2006 01:23 AM #90
Methinks the Battle of Carthage scene in Russel Crowe's Gladiator (yr. 2000) is a homage to that...
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